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Fine-cut Burley, Virginia and Oriental 'American' blends. A light is a clean and good tasting tobacco. It can have a noticeable sweet smell and an almost sugary-sticky feel. The smoke is smooth and mild. Its packed pretty moist and tight (I move it to tupperware to loosen and dry it some before use). Low ~$15 per lb.

The McClintock brand is now owned by Commonwealth and the Stokkebye/Denmark made tobacco (cans) will soon be replaced with Polish made (bags).

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Gobucks on Sunday, 23-Mar-2008

Well, what's the consensus on the new polish McClintock.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Gobucks on Friday, 21-Mar-2008

I've wanted to try the old McClintock Va. that everybody talks about in these forums. Anyway i was at my local smoke shop and came across 6 oz. cans of McV. They are an off yellow and it says there made in denmark for Peter Stokebye. Can anybody tell me if this is the stuff.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by dave z on Friday, 21-Mar-2008

Is it this Gobucks? [link]

If thats whats it is, theres a review of it in RYOMAG somewhere. :)

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Gobucks on Friday, 21-Mar-2008

[link] Looks like this. I found this pic in this same forum were in, about half way down page posted by Bob Feb. 6. Dont know if link I inserted will work.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Gobucks on Friday, 21-Mar-2008

Posted by Bob on Thursday, 16-Feb-2006
Well Idecided to just order it online. Should be set for a while...

[link]

My link did not work, but this is posting I was referring to. Looks like they may have it?

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Gobucks on Friday, 21-Mar-2008

They had a few tall cans of the light also. I may have to try it.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by dave z on Friday, 21-Mar-2008

I m not sure if its the McC V theyre all fussing about, it could also be a later incarnation. This following link might be it, with a little more info.    I d get it whether or not its the original, they were both supposed to be good. [link]
Its about halfway down. I guess if it comes with papers, its the newer version.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Gobucks on Saturday, 22-Mar-2008

Thanks Dave Z

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Gobucks on Sunday, 23-Mar-2008

I tried the McClintock Virginia. The smoke shop I bought it at had it for $12.99 for 6 ounces, (ouch) , but I had to try it. It's sticky and sweet like everyone has said. I'll have to say one of the best SYO tobaccos I've tried. Absoloutely love the smell. Too bad they don't make it anymore. Dave Z send your address to Gobucs6789@yahoo.com and I'll send you some for your help.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by dave z on Friday, 28-Mar-2008

Well Gobucks, received the package on Thursday, thank you very much. I can see why lotsa people miss this stuff, its very sweet and smooth. Being a fan of RG, I can taste the similarities. While maybe not exact as is, I wonder if some aging wouldnt get it even closer to the mark (mebbe even a little WP mixed in). In any case, this is some great stuff! I agree its unfortunate that its NLA. Again thanks! :)

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Dano on Monday, 24-Mar-2008

Yup, that's the stuff.
So where is this smoke shop? :)

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Sammy Hagar on Monday, 24-Mar-2008

Your rock candy baby, you're hard sweet and sticky.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Greg on Monday, 04-Feb-2008

I'm on my 1st bag of the Polish McClintock Light. It has been my daily smoke for over 2 yrs.
I noticed the cut is more coarse, not as fine as it was in the cans from Stokkebye, and it is a little drier. Upon opening the bag I noticed a much stronger "fruity" aroma than with the cans. My wife, a non-smoker, said the aroma was noticeably more fruity than the can I had on hand. Taste was slightly milder and the fruity taste more pronounced with the bagged tobacco.
I settled on McClintock Light after trying several cheaper brands of tobacco that caused my throat to hurt, almost causing me to go back to "store bought" cigarettes. I'm hoping the new Polish blend McClintock works out for me.

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Re: McClintock (new 16 oz)
Posted by bebop on Monday, 07-Jan-2008

I recieved some of the Mc FF pouches from LBS a few weeks ago. Upon opening the pouch, it still has that fruity smell, though it didn't seem as intense as the can. Comparing it to cans the tobacco seems to look the same, though the tobacco at the very top of the pouch was drier, the rest of pouch was moist. When stuffing it, I noticed it had a lot more stems (or whatever you call it) in it. It's not a huge amount, but noticable when compared to the cans. It also seemed to have less shake, maybe because it's not as compressed as the cans. The taste is just slightly off. I just can't figure out what it is, but I'm thinking maybe it has a little more burley in it. Not sure what it is, but it still not too bad. I do like the pouch idea, but there is something just slightly off on the taste for me. I have been smoking the MC FF for two years and this is not bad enough to switch brands or anything. The flavor is pretty close and it just may be me that notices the slight change as my hubby didn't notice any change in flavor at all.

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Re: McClintock (new 16 oz)
Posted by Myykel in AZ on Thursday, 17-Jan-2008

Been myo'ing Mc Lt as my exclusive smoke for about 7 months now. I smoke 40 to 50 a day (no lectures - please). It was the first bulk tobacco I bought after I quit buying commercial cigarettes and jumped on the myo band wagon for good. I have never blended flavors or brands. I'm anal that way.

After my local shops ran out of the tins, I looked for a substitute until it came back on the market. I tried Bali, American Golden, Stokers #2 and Zen. None of those other brands were "bad", but they were different and I missed my Mc Lt. My co-worker was also an exclusive Mc Lt smoker (though not as many), and we commiserated daily about the new adventures in smoking we were forced to endure.

Two days ago I recieved my 1st bag of the new Polish Mc Lt. from Li'l Brown. I brought it to work, unopened, to proudly display and share with my co-worker.

We opened the bag and shared the first smells, stuffed a couple, and went outside to sample and discuss.

Now this discussion group here will dissect every detail of the differences between the two Mc Lt's far beyond my ability to do so, but...I will say this....It's good to be back smoking my favorite. I will be buying more and re-establishing it as my exclusive tobacco.

Are there differences between the tinned and bagged samples..? Sure. But to me...any negatives will be blended with the positives and I will make the necessary adjustments. Both differences are too small to matter either way, in the long run, or to this dedicated Mc smoker.

The simple opinion of 1 smoker.

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Re: McClintock (new 16 oz)
Posted by ALLTALL on Friday, 18-Jan-2008

You have made me curious about this brand. I smoke about the same amount as you do. Often I have read about a "great" brand and tried it. Only to find that while it was tasty, the thought of smoking more than a couple a day made me gag. Too strong. Too, whatever. Most her are connoisseurs I think. I am not. I just want a regular daily smoke. So it is good to hear from someone with the same sort of smoking habits I have.

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Re: McClintock (new 16 oz)
Posted by mike c on Friday, 18-Jan-2008

Hey ALLTALL, just because I like playing with different machines, the elite blending aspects don't appeal to me, I just smoke cheap stuff happily....
I'm with ya......:-)

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Re: McClintock (new 16 oz)
Posted by Matt on Friday, 15-Feb-2008

    Glad to hear it! I have been a McClintock Light regular for over 3 years. I moved 3 years ago and could only find it at 1 store in town. Now the guy gave up finding it for me. I guess his supplier quit buying it when the company changed hands. Anyway, I have been missing my brand for 3 weeks now. I have tried substituting but nothing compares for the price. I am gonna bite the shipping bullet and order it on-line. Thanks for the review of the polish version

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Re: McClintock (new 16 oz)
Posted by Betty Marker on Friday, 25-Jan-2008

The last time I purchased McClintock tobacco, I was informed they no longer carry the cans, only the bags. This is fine, except there is a very large amount of "stems" throughout the bag and alot of sediment (unable to ROY) on the bottom of these new bags.

Please can we re-instate the tall cans? (which did not have these unwanted features)... what can be done?

Regards,
BLM of Oregon

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Re: McClintock (new 16 oz)
Posted by KL on Saturday, 26-Jan-2008

Since the switch to the polish Bag thing has happened Myself and friends have went thru about 6 bags or so and there has been a marked reduction in shake and the stem thing has been the same very small amount per/16oz bag as it has been in the cans (for us here in Michigan anyways). in fact there was more shake in the tall cans, I still have a tall can of the red that has an area in the middle of the can that's almost all shake (it was factory packed like that) anyways, if you are getting more shake than I wonder if someone is being rough on the bags before you buy them, stem wise there is a good chance that will just go away by the time you get another bag

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by JOHNLG on Saturday, 05-Jan-2008

Yeah I've tried the new bags and they suck the BIG ONE!!!! I've bought 7 of the cocksuckers and they're all dry as HELL!!,.... I don
't think i'm going to be buying anymore McClintock tobacco after this bag!!! I used to like McClintock tobacco, bought and been using it for one and one half years its sorry when companies have to cut costs when a Republican is in the WHITE HOUSE!, YOU"VE LOST A VALUABLE CUSTOMER AND SALES PERSON!,(seeing hoe's i told everyone i new that it was great tobacco) Sincerley, LOST CUSTOMER JOHNLG!!!!!!!!

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by KL on Sunday, 06-Jan-2008

Myself...I would rather buy it dry and re-hydrate it . That way you pay for less water.
There was almost no shake in the bags I got, it wasn't dry enough to do that.
PS
    it had a brick like feel to it in the bag and a RH and shape like it came from D&R or something.

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Sunday, 06-Jan-2008

I've never bought a big bag of tobacco of McC shag like cut that was dried out! I believe you--don't get the wrong idea, but that cut of tobacco should be the last to dry. Were the bags all sealed? Have you tried rehydrating the tobacco? How did it taste? It's strange that I got a one pounder of Rave that dried out quick, now your new dried out McC?
I guess time will tell? Capt Mike

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Re:Polish McClintock
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Saturday, 05-Jan-2008

Last night I was informed by a friend who works in a local tobacco shop that the new Polish McC may have recon, expanded, and other re-manufactured crap in it. It wouldn't be illegal since the cigarette manufacturers still put it in up to 50% of the doctored up stuff in the major brands now being sold.
We need some feedback from those who have used the new Polish blends. It seems if I want to try it I'll have to buy it on--line since no--one around here has any in stock yet. I'll refrain from buying any till I know and feel confident that I'm not buying fertilizer, since I've acquired enough recently to last me for two years on an Acre of grass. Capt Mike

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Re: Re:Polish McClintock
Posted by KL on Saturday, 05-Jan-2008

well, I'm on my 2nd 16oz bag of the polish Mc Lt and never seen anything like that in it, or anything bad at all for that matter.
In fact, I still say the same opinion as I typed below, Myself and my Mc Lt smoking friends all think it was tweaked for the better (if it was tweaked at all, it's not as wet, that's for sure)

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Re: Re:Polish McClintock
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Saturday, 05-Jan-2008

Good, I still think I'll wait and see. My friend isn't one to pass along bad info. But I'm surprised more people haven't posted on the P McC? Capt Mike

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Re: Re:Polish McClintock
Posted by dcp on Saturday, 05-Jan-2008

McC has been my standard go-to for about 5yrs. It's what I smoke when I don't feel like putting a few pinches of something more interesting together. I've got currently somewhere around 20 different brands/types in my little tobacco rolodex, with 6 different tubes to mix them in. Contrary to what my family/friends think- I'm not some kind of connoisseur that can identify different brands/blends blindfolded. Quite the contrary, I'd say my palate is probably confused- but thats kinda what I've been going for. I seek variety in my tobacco so I don't have to seek it in foodstuffs which, as Im aging, all go to my hips ;) It's also a heavy allergy season ("cedar fever") in my area of the country.... so with that long disclaimer, and an obligatory YMMV:
I recieved a bag of Polish McC a few days before Xmas. Upon opening it was the familiar fruity smell that has been typical of McC since I've been smoking it. Looked the same as it ever did, same cut and consistancy. Although I've only been smoking 2-3 McC smokes a day from the time it landed until today, today I've been smoking almost all McC's, with a couple Windail Plats in between to "cleanse my palate" and give me some sort of (screwed up) control group. I've also been running it through all the tubes I've got. Silvertips, Silvertip lights, Silvertip Charbon, Mascotte reg, ZenFF, ZenL, PremierFF, and those awful dirt brown Vera Cruz. Wait, thats 8 tubes.   Anyway, it seems to be the same old McC in every way I can tell. Of course all of this is so subjective, and there are so many possible variables in the experience.
I can't say I can see any reconst in it, but then again I just broke open a Camel Filter, and there are maybe two different looking "chips" in it, and the variation on them is minor. So, even though I know I know there is reconst in the Camel, I can't visually identify it. I don't have any instruments on hand now that would give me high enough magnification to tell either- and I might need a ref sample of reconst to sort it out anyway.

One way to possibly find out would be to find out what the EU/Polish (is Poland EU?) manufacturing laws are. There seems to be much tighter controls on foodstuffs over there- maybe they don't lie to consumers as readily as U.S. companies do.

The one thing that _might_ be different is the level of, or absence of, humectants. The one thing I've always liked about McC is it's ability to stay moist under even harsh conditions. I usually fill a small snack size ziplock out of my big cans or bags, so I can keep a bunch of little baggies in my box on my desk of different tobaccos. I could almost always rely on McC to stay moist enuff to be smokable until I finished the little baggie (which is why it's what I reach for when I need a quick fix), but this time it's drying quicker- but that could be a result of a brutally dry few weeks.

I can say, it is a quality, enjoyable smoke. And while I don't purport to be an expert- I can say that I've smoked some really bad tobaccos over the years ;) So... hope something here helps someone.

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Re: Re:Polish McClintock
Posted by KL on Saturday, 05-Jan-2008

I do the same thing with the baggies. I have more than 20 different kinds lined up in my tobacco box on or near my desk rolodex style. I live in Michigan and it's not as dry as it could be this time of year and the Mc Lt is still drying out faster than the older Mc Lt.
I also have the old 6oz cans to compare and from that comparison is where I got the info I wrote so far in the other posts.
Upon close inspection it is all leaf and no recon. as far as I can tell.

                              
I will try to do a Gas Chromatography & Mass Spectrometry plus the full family of analytical chemistry procedures as soon as I can find it in my other paints :)   

                                 (Warning! - light humor above)

kl

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Re: Re:Polish McClintock
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Sunday, 06-Jan-2008

I have noticed the same thing as you in that the McC held its moisture longer than larger cuts. It's strange that I bought a Lb bag of Rave last month, and I couldn't keep it from drying out fast! I hope to God I'm wrong about the Polish McC, because it was one of my favorite goto's! I know that some people who have been making their own smokes for a long time will get sick if they go back to factory made chemical sticks. Have you ever smoked a Polish cigarette? Me either. Capt Mike

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Ernest Lipps on Saturday, 15-Dec-2007

Has anyone tried the new 16oz bags, I like the price as I use the Zen's 250 tubes.
Pete

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Jeffo on Saturday, 15-Dec-2007

I have an unopened bag of Polish McClintock from Lil' Brown I received a few days ago but I've got too many other tobaccos opened and am reluctant to open another until there used..darn

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Saturday, 15-Dec-2007

Does the Polish stuff look similar to the Danish? How does it look; what can see that is? Capt Mike

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Jeffo on Saturday, 15-Dec-2007

The bag has this website listed on it www.mcclintocktobacco.us I tried it but got some network solutions under construction site..nothing to do with tobacco. The appearance of it: Looks like maybe three shades of colors from medium to light brown. It's a short to medium length thin cut. Doesn't appear to have a lot of shake. Hope this helps a little. This is my first purchase of any McC.
so I can't compare it to the old stuff.

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Saturday, 15-Dec-2007

Thank you! It helps, and it's more than we had before! Unfortunately for you--you didn't experience this wonderful tobacco; while many of us here have used it for many years, and I do hope they've somehow managed to retain the quality we have enjoyed from Stokkebye's over the years. Our first big lose was the McClintock Virginia a while back. It was a grand smoke that no one has been able to duplicate as far as I know. Stokkebye's have sold the Brand Names to Bali Shag as well, but I've not heard anything about that one yet. Thanks again. Capt Mike

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Jeffo on Saturday, 15-Dec-2007

I opened the bag of McClintock FF (Polish) and stuffed some into a Premier FF tube. I've got some Rizla + Deluxe tubes on the way. IMHO Complete FF for $11.85 from LBSS is better. Now my taster might be off tonight. I'll try some more tomorrow and report. It's mild no harshness but on the tasteless side.

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Jeffo on Monday, 17-Dec-2007

After trying the "New" McClintock from Poland for a few days. It's a very mild FF. It's a fine cut, stuffs very easy, combo of burley, virginia and oriental tobaccos. The flavor is subtle sort of like cashews. I'm still at the top of the 16 oz. bag but looks like it's low on shake. I'm happy with it but not "blown away". Like I said in an earlier post I can't compare it to the older canned stuff because I never smoked it before this bag. Hope this helps.

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Re: McClintock Light
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Tuesday, 25-Dec-2007

    It is with much cynicism that I now find myself with the last 13 oz can of McClintock Light available in my area. I wish I had tried this tobacco before, because it is a wonderful light smoke that is great by itself, or blended with other tobacco. Particularly, it makes an excellent smoke blended 1 to 1 with Ramback Balkan! Also vary tasty in a 60/40 blend with Two Timer! I wish I could be more optimistic about the McClintocks, but until we get access to the new product from Poland, all we can do is wait and see. Capt Mike

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Re: McClintock Light
Posted by Jeffo on Tuesday, 25-Dec-2007

Captain..What is this [link] ? Merry Merry.

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Re: McClintock Light
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Tuesday, 25-Dec-2007

That, my friend is Polish McClintock Lite! Over the years I have come to enjoy some of Stokkebye's blends. They are unique, quality tobaccos. I have never smoked any Polish tobaccos, and doubt whether they can duplicate the Danish blend of McClintock, or the Light blend. Besides, the guy I buy my tubes from tells me he heard the trade marks took a hit quality wise, and as I said before we'll see what others (regular users) think. Hell, if they get it in where I get my tubes I'll buy a bag, but they haven't gotten any yet. Capt Mike

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Re: McClintock Light
Posted by Dean on Tuesday, 08-Jan-2008

First impressions of the new Polish is not as good. Seems to be less Virginia in it. Has more of the Burly smell. Tastes a little more Turkish / Burly. Looks like a medium cut. Not as moist, but the old was a little too moist. It might be slightly lighter taste / strength wise. Only improved thing for me is not all that shake the cans had, and the med. cut rolls a little easier. I may have to look for a new daily smoke, if my first impressions persist.

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McClintock Light (new 16oz)
Posted by KL on Saturday, 15-Dec-2007

   
I just got a 1 LB bag of Mc Lt and it was great.
    Seemed better to me than it has been, and to my friends too.      
One friend had a whole display box of the little .75oz pouches and sold them to someone else cause he thought the new 1 lb bag was tweaked for the better, so he went out and got one and is loving it. (1 lb for $18.35)
   They all say it is nuttier and the moisture is perfect (instead of a little too much as McC. always has been in the past)
   I love the new bags and the new size and the tobacco inside, whether it's the same or not. Looks like the Poland thing will be a good thing

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Re: McClintock Light (new 16oz)
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Tuesday, 25-Dec-2007

I'm glad to hear someone is enjoying the new McC! I'll feel a bit better investing in a lb knowing someone else likes the changes in product. Thanks for the heads up. I'm cynical by nature in part, and by experiences I've had before with other trade mark buyouts. We'll see if the Polish Blends can pass the test of time! Capt Mike

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McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Wednesday, 05-Dec-2007

I have just been informed by a local tobacco/cigarette shop that McClintock is no longer available in the 13 oz can we have come to know! Instead, it will come bagged from now on. All they had on stock was two McC Light in the 13 oz. size. I was also informed that taxes have been increased on bulk tobacco as well here in Ohio. Capt Mike

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Re: McClintock (new 16oz)
Posted by mike c on Wednesday, 05-Dec-2007

I just hung up the phone where I heard about the bags as well...apparently bought out by Commonwealth if that makes sense since I don't smoke that brand and the o'l CRS....
I am getting so angry regarding tobacco taxes that I truly am just about ready for someone's neck....if only I knew who's and how to get at it
I think the local tobacco shops are afraid to raise prices now even though I promised I would not attack their shops LOL!

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Sunday, 25-Nov-2007

I find myself about half way through a can of McClintock FF, and comming up with shake out of the middle of the can? I got curious about this, and found the tobacco to be packed more than usual; so in effect I was breaking the tobacco on every dip! After loosening the tobacco from the edge, I was then getting good cut tobacco again.
One of the ways I judge the content of Caseings is by the way the smoke trims after injection. A tobacco with few caseings and other added ingredients will trim with resistance (the overhang after injection), causing my scisors to make an audiable click. Where as the heavier cased tobaccos will cut easier like cutting through the chewed end of a cigar! I believe my McC FF to be more cased than other blends I've used lately. I shouldn't have been able to make shake with my soft fingering and the tobacco shouldn't be as fragile in a hydrated state in mho! This only happens with McC FF, and I haven't had a similar experience with any of the other tobaccos I've used in the past to my reccolection! But none the less McC FF is a good all around smoke in my opinion. It smokes longer than most any other blend similarly packed; except for Lookout Milde Shage, and then it's a close contest. Capt Mike

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McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dano on Wednesday, 07-Nov-2007

About 8 months ago I contacted the Villages-Stokkebye company via e-mail in regard to what, if anything, was going on with the McClintock Virginia line of tobacco.

Recently I received a phone call (much to my surprise) from Eric Stokkebye. Let me just say that first, I was extremely shocked that after all the time that passed between my inquire that he actually took the time to call me directly and secondly that he was an extremely pleasant and forth coming guy.

We chatted for about 15 or 20 minutes about the sale of the McClintock Line and about Stokkebye in general. He seemed sympathetic to the fact that the McClintock Virginia was a superior blend but ultimately the reason for its demise came down to, in his words, economics.

I inquired if there was anything on the horizon as far as introducing new blends into the Stokkebye line was concerned and the answer was no. I had hoped that perhaps the Mc Virginia may rise from the ashes in a Stokkebye can, but that's not to be.

SO! That's the Official Scoop.   No plans for Mc V to ever come back and no new offerings in the works under the Stokkebye brand name.

Although that is sad news it is very encouraging to know that the head of a major international company will actually take the time to pick up the phone and give you a ring. I suppose that's just part of what makes Stokkebye's tobacco a superior product.


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Re: McClintock Light
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Sunday, 27-May-2007

I finally picked up a 6 oz can of McClintock Light a week or so ago while on vacation...all the years I've been ryo/myo-ing, I'd never tried it for some reason.

It's most certainly a light, mild tobacco that--from the best I can remember now--reminds me of Marlboro Lights from the 70's-80's but with a cleaner, more discernable flavour. There's no sweet or fruity smell like the McC FF has/had (I haven't smoked any of the McC FF in a few months, but it used to smell of plums or apples that had over-ripened). I've gotta think that anyone just making the transition from premades to MYO would love the McC Light; if I had stumbled on this years ago after switching over from Benson & Hedges Lights and Marlboro Lights, I'd likely have stuck with it for awhile.

Tasty, without harshness or bite. Not too shabby at all.

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Re: McClintock Light
Posted by Smokin n Jokin on Sunday, 27-May-2007

I tried to switch a friend that smokes Marlboro light over to McClintock light, she thought is was a little strong for a light and liked Vengeur light better. I just dusted off some Tinderbox virginia that I got when I first started SYO. I kinda set it aside because at the time I thought it was kinda pricey at $2.79 an ounce. After trying almost everything that's available I now think it's worth it. There are very few SYO brands that I haven't tried and other than some being way too strong and harsh I haven't really found anything that I can't tolerate or absolutely dislike but the only thing I've found so far that didn't leave me with kind of a ho-hum feeling was Custom Blends #3.

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McClintock
Posted by Keith on Monday, 05-Mar-2007

Just bought a can of this and it really does smell fruity. It's weird because I bought a pouch to try a couple weeks ago and it did not have a fruity aroma at all. Maybe the pouch was a little dry and that helped get rid of the fruity smell. After a bit of drying, the tobacco is fine. Be careful when drying though, this tobacco is pretty finely cut and it's easy to over dry it and end up with powder.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Monday, 05-Mar-2007

Agreed. I know the fine cut tobaccos are great for hand rolling, but it's generally a PITA for stuffing and becomes very brittle very fast.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by scott johnson on Monday, 05-Mar-2007

I too noticed a difference between pouches and can. I have bought pouches before nd I liked it. But, when I bought Mc FF in the can, I was overpowered by the sweet. fruity aroma.


sj

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Wednesday, 07-Mar-2007

I agree as well. But, remember how moist and smelling like rotten apples it use to be? I kinda like the F.F. McC and if I ever had to go to a canned tobacco--this one would be it! Also, I enjoy blending this stuff with Look Out Milde Shag, and a touch of Ramback; just enough to let you know it's in the blend. I quit buying pouches of tobacco just because it always seemed dry. The only exception to the rule is Five Brothers Smoking tobacco, because you can only get it by the pouch.(Capt'n) Mike

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What REALLY Happened To Mc V ?
Posted by Dano on Thursday, 01-Mar-2007

I've been a Mc V lover from way back. I have a pretty good supply but it's getting almost impossible to find any. (as in it's to the point where you gotta really spend some time tracking some down).

I could never figure out exactly why McClintock Virgina was going off of the market. I had read rumors. The biggest rumor seemed to be that Common Wealth Brands (who bought the distribution rights from Peter Stokkebye for their McClintock brand) didn't want a premium tobacco. I do believe I read this in MYO Mag several years ago and was astounded. (The logic didn't make sense).

So I decided in this age of 800 numbers to investigate. I called Common Wealth Brands and asked what happened to Mc V to the nice lady that answered the phone. She got a supervisor. I explained that I and many other love Mc V and asked her why her company decided to discontinue it?

I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with her, she was extremely helpful and the bottom line was that Common Wealth Brands brought the distribution rights to the McClintock brand, but Peter Stokkebye wouldn't include Mc V.

After that conversation, I had an occasion to speak with Mark Ryan of D&R tobacco and mentioned my conversation with Common Wealth Brands. He indicated to me (if I understood correctly) that the initial negations with Common Wealth occurred while Peter Stokkebye was still alive, and was suprised to hear of what Common Wealth Brands told me, although he indicated that he thought the deal was done after Peter Stokkebyes death and thought the blame could be placed on the new company,which resulted after Peters passing (Villages-Stokkebye) which is essentially a Cigar company.

I was talking to Mark Ryan about his upcoming Roland Gold (the McV replacement) and said, well you know it seems to me the Stokkebye didn't really make any tobacco, everything was made for that company, as such doesn't someone know the 'recipe' for McV? From the answer that I got I guess it's not common knowledge who made what for Peter Stokkebye.

So, I was left unfulfilled. I still don't know who made McV for Peter Stokkebye, I still don't know why P.S. didn't included McV in the distribution deal and I still don't know exactly why this blend that could easily sell for $3 - $3.50 a pouch is being mysteriously kept off of the market and away from consumers who are clamoring for it.

If there's anyone here that knows the real deal behind all of this I for one would love to know about it.


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mc clintock full flavor
Posted by adam on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2007

this is great tobacco for the price dont let the low price scare you

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Re: mc clintock full flavor
Posted by Ross Green on Monday, 12-Feb-2007

I too really like this tobacco. One of these days will get smoke shop locally to carry it in something other than the pouches. If someone thinks its too strong try it in a light tube. Its excellent that way too.

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McClintock Full Flavor? Vanilla?
Posted by scott johnson on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2007

I tried this again 1st time since last summer. I swear it smells and tastes like it has vanilla in it! After it dries for a bit it seems to go away. A stuffed one right out of the can and I couldn't handle the sweet, candy-like taste. another after it dried and aired out was just fine. Weird I think. I've never bought the cans before, just pouches, and I don't recall them tasting like this.

Oh well, I'll just let it air out a bit before I start stuffing it.


sj

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor? Vanilla?
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2007

Weird...I haven't smoked any McC FF in a few months, but the canned tobacco used to smell of plums or apples when it was really moist. That smell, too, went away after it aired out for awhile.

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor? Vanilla?
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Thursday, 25-Jan-2007

I thought it had the scent of apples, rotten apples. Now, it's just a sweet, candyish scent. I've been transferring my tobaccos from the original containers to one of my storage containers. Then, I'll transfer some tobacco to a smaller container to work out of! This process seems to air out the tobacco enough to dissipate the casings and toppings. It doesn't take much here in Ohio to dry out tobacco in the Winter. Mike

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor? Vanilla?
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Thursday, 25-Jan-2007

That's why I try to stay away from pouches. It seems every pouch I buy is dried out, and in need of re--hydration. Mike

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DnR McClintock "V" "alternative
Posted by mike c on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2007

the "alternative" offering from DnR is developed and is going to be "Rowland Gold".....it's not ready for the market yet, so hold tight....
DnR has "unearthed" about a case of McClintock Virginia in pouches, however it is older stocks and is being offered to us, but only as a "buy per your own discretion" disclaimer....it is priced accordingly, and the case is already depleted a little....

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Re: DnR McClintock "V" "alternative
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2007

I'll be happy to try some of this McC V replacement and give it a head-to-head with the real deal. Here's hoping Mr. Ryan hits one out of the park, as I'm sure the many McC V fans will gladly line his pockets thoroughly if he gets it right.

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Re: DnR McClintock "V" "alternative
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2007

I just reread your post and noticed the word "Rowland" along side the Gold. I wonder if Mr. Ryan is gonna do something regarding the cocoa aroma of this new blend, because McC V certainly doesn't have any sort of cocoa aroma or taste.... I don't think Rowland blended with the Windsail Platinum by itself will make the nut.

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Re: DnR McClintock "V" "alternative
Posted by Dano on Tuesday, 27-Feb-2007

I just called D&R and got a return call from Mark Ryan.
(I thought that was pretty cool :)

Here's the scoop as I understand it from the horses mouth.

He says he was hesitant to emulate another tobacco especially since McV being an European smoke with all it's flavorings etc. was something that was outside the realm of what he's all about. However since he had a lot of calls about the Mc V he has indeed gone ahead and it will be called Roland Gold. He says it will be McV but better! I believe the word he used was dynamite! If I understood him correctly he said he has the labels printed and he's going to test the blend with selected users. So, you McV lovers (in my opinion) should email and or call him and say you want to be test subjects. Also, if I understood him correctly shipping of the product is still about 2 months out.

He also mentioned there's a Roland Platinum coming out around the same time. My understanding of this offering is that it's going to be a Premium Marlboro. A really high end good tasting Marlboro.

He also explained that there was some personal business that has delayed these products being available now. He didn't have to do that but indeed it goes a long way to taking the Vapor Ware handle off of the project.

I thought it was exceptionally cool that he took the time to return a long distance phone call and go into it all. He seems like a really nice guy, a straight forward guy, the kinda guy you'd have a beer with. Kudos!

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A "smoother " menthol
Posted by Jim G on Sunday, 21-Jan-2007

I have always smoked menthol (>30 yrs.)and started stuffing my own about 5 years ago. I had trouble finding a MYO brand of menthol that tasted good without freezing my tonsils. After much experimentation, I have found that a 50/50 blend of McClintock Light and Menthol is the perfect combination for me.

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Re: A "smoother " menthol
Posted by Kent on Monday, 22-Jan-2007

Agree. Best combination I've found - 50/50. Wish they'd mentholate their McC Light though. I blend that with Rowland light, and dropped Wingate light out of the mix.

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Re: A "smoother " menthol
Posted by Matt on Monday, 22-Jan-2007


I know it's too little too late, but when Drum was still a Douwe Egberts product there was a Drum Milde Menthol. It was the very best and smoothest menthol ever. I got the last 2 pouches my local Walgreens had and even though it was very dry it was still an excellent smoke. It also was a 50 gram pouch instead of the new 40 gram that the companies have been pawning off on us.

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McClintock FF + Ramback
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Saturday, 20-Jan-2007

I've smoked McClintock FF on and off since it became available, and I remember it to be a good smoke--one that tastes good, and easy to tube. This was last year, before I got my Topomatic. I remember it use to gum up my Supermatic; requiring me to clean it often with alcohol.

I just picked up a can the other day, and it seems to have changed? It's not as moist, and seems to have a scent I can't place. I remember it use to smell like apples to me! The tobacco really works well in my Quick Roller without any drying, and still makes a pleasurable smoke like it use to--but slightly different some how? Experimenting, I took my usual route and went 60/40 Mc + Ramback Turkish. Wow, what a wonderful flavor and aroma this blend produced! Absolutely, outstanding, to say the least! What a joy it is to blend my own tobacco!

   Any new people to RYO-MYO-SYO, what ever you choose to call it; I can guaranty you are in for some very pleasant surprises if you have the patience to stick with it! I've been making my own smokes since the early 90's and still discover wonderful tobacco blends! Mike

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Re: McClintock FF + Ramback
Posted by scott johnson on Saturday, 20-Jan-2007

I picked up a can last week. It was much dryer than the pouches I've bought. I was really surprised.


It has a sweet, sugary taste to me. Or sweetened with honey or something. not a fruity taste as before. I like it straight, or mixed with a little of my cheaper tobaccos to add a little burley/Turkish to it.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Turtle on Sunday, 24-Dec-2006

I wanted more of this but I don't order online and nowhere around here sells it anymore. I got the last can for my city. very good once you get used to that swet taste (which only takes a few cigarettes to do).

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McClintock Virginia flavoring: Rum?
Posted by Warren on Friday, 06-Oct-2006

I ordered recently 1 oz samples of McClintock red (full flavor) and organge (Virginia) from RYO Tobacco ( [link] ). Both had the same striking, sweet and exotic aroma. After rolling few cigarettes of each I went to a liquor cabinet and as I was looking what to have, a whiff of that same mysterious aroma came through. After opening few bottles and sniffing, I found the McClintock aroma is basically rum, or even closer a rum punch coctail after being left in a glass for few hours.

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McClintock Menthol
Posted by Mark Harrison on Saturday, 23-Sep-2006

Strong Menthol taste. Reminds me of Newport when in a menthol tube, and marlboro menthol when in a FF tube. It does pack and also roll very good. One of my favorites

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Re: McClintock Menthol
Posted by Dominick Versetto on Saturday, 23-Sep-2006

I mix McClintock Menthol with Ramback at about 60/40. The blend tastes wonderful. It's one way of having a menthol cigarette with real tobacco flavor.

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McClintock Virginia
Posted by platoslostdialogue on Friday, 25-Aug-2006

Just finished a can, yielding 156 cigarettes. I was just wondering what other McClintock Virginia smokers usually get out of their cans?

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Friday, 25-Aug-2006

That would be about right...I typically get approximately 145 - 150 sticks from a can of McC Virginia. At 6 oz X 28.3 grams/oz = 169.8 cigs. I usually use just a hair over 1 gram per cig since I like 'em packed a bit tighter.

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McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by JD on Tuesday, 11-Apr-2006

I wonder if McClintock's FF blend is undergoing a reformulation? The last couple of cans I've bought have had far less of the fruity aroma, a more duskier aroma and much longer, thinner cut strands. Still fairly moist, but nowhere near the likes of the PS cans. The taste is a bit milder but not overly so.

I'm not sure if it's just the cans I've bought or something else afoot....

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by auk1124 on Thursday, 08-Jun-2006

I just tried a pouch of McClintock FF in the typical newbie ever-elusive search for a Marlboro Red substitute. I like the FF, it is decently strong (wish a bit stronger tho) and flavorful when stuffed in a Premier regular King tube, but the fine shag tends to pack a little too tightly. I think I'll try another pouch, packed a bit looser.

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by Dan on Thursday, 08-Jun-2006

You might want to give Mac Baren American blend a try.
Though i haven't had a Marlboro Red in a couple years, that is what it reminded me of (only better)

Dan

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by Hector on Thursday, 08-Jun-2006

Ditto what Dan said ! I smoked the Reds for years, now that I ryo I use Mac Baren American often. After smoking this blend, when you try a Red, you will prefer the Mac B.

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by auk1124 on Friday, 09-Jun-2006

Thanks for the recommendations fellas. Next time I mail order something I will give the MacBaren American a shot. Best part about this McClintock FF is, a local cigarette store is closing it out and basically giving it away. I just tried another pouch of the FF in a Zig Zag regular tube, and the draw was a lot better (probably due to the crappy gluing of the filters lol). For now the McClintock will be my go-to Red substitute until I can try the MacBaren.

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by Dano on Friday, 09-Jun-2006

If all you're looking for is something close to a Marlboro Red, try '61'. Loose the Premier tubes and use something decent(Rizla or Zig Zag) and you're there on the cheap.

I think you'll find out though that after trying the great tobacco's out there that the last thing you'll want is something that tastes like a Marlboro Red :)

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Re: McClintock
Posted by ken on Friday, 17-Feb-2006

hello;great site,lots of info.what i would like to know is if mcclintock light is additive free,i have been using american spirit for a couple of months but it seams to be a little harsh for me,tried the mc light today and wow what a difference,nice and smooth.thanks...ken

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Dano on Saturday, 18-Feb-2006

That's a good question. Although I've wondered from time to time the same thing i've never really seen any info around about it.

I would guess that if no one here knows the answer perhaps you could email the guy at myo magazine and he may have the answer. I've emailed him once or twice over the years and he was always gracious enough to reply. Who knows maybe he'll do an article about it in a coming issue.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Bob on Monday, 20-Feb-2006

Quote from-
http://www.peterstokkebye.com/cig_manuf.htm
Top Flavour
The addition of top flavour (aromatics) is the last step before the tobacco is packaged, and is sprayed onto the tobacco in rotating cylinders. Top flavour makes the taste smooth -and is unique to each tobacco blend and to every single brand. Consequently, the recipe is a trade secret.

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McClintock availability?
Posted by Bob on Friday, 10-Feb-2006

I have decided on McClintock light as my everyday smoke, after trying dozens from online retailers.

I have not been able to find McClintock locally, so today I went to the only tobacco shop in town that I had not tried, to see if they have it.

They informed me that McClintock (all flavors) was no longer imported into the U.S.!!! Is this true, or do they not know what they are talking about?

I have been trying to find a local source, because I am unable to find any info on whether or not it is legal to order rolling tobacco online in Michigan. I don't want to be hit with a tax bill, especially when tobacco seems to cost MORE online, than it does locally. I just can't get what I want locally. Any info on the legality of ordering tobacco online would be appreciated, so far I have only ordered a few times.

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Re: McClintock availability?
Posted by MyFaceFrozeThatWay on Friday, 10-Feb-2006

Sounds like they don't know what they're talking about. I can get all the McClintock I want locally, even the "discontinued" Virgina in the gold can (although I'm not sure how much longer that one will be around).

Man, I'd love to see a chain of strictly MYO/RYO stores open up nationwide. The local shops in my area cater more towards the cigar and pipe crowd, but I've been pestering 'em enough that they've come around to offering a few token MYO products....

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Re: McClintock Light availability?
Posted by Dano on Thursday, 16-Feb-2006

My understanding is that only the McVirginia is discontinued.
My wife smokes the McLight and there's no problem getting it in my area.

I would wager that D&R has McLight. I didn't see it advertised on their website but they in fact carry McV (which I order a couple of dozen cans :) so they probably carry the McLight also. The prices are essentially the same as I get in my local smoke shop.

Also, if you haven't tried the Windsail Light you may like that. I switched it out on my wife without telling her and she actually likes it better. The only reason I did the switcheroo was because I really didn't like the smell of McLight.

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Re: McClintock Light availability?
Posted by Bob on Thursday, 16-Feb-2006

Well Idecided to just order it online. Should be set for a while...


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Re: McClintock Light availability?
Posted by Kev on Friday, 17-Feb-2006

Interesting, the top shelf in my closet looks like that - tobacco on the left, then tubes and my SYO machine boxes. I just have different brands. I noticed the containers on the far left. They look similar to some supposed "air tight" containers I saw at Walmart last weekend. Are you keeping stuffed tubes in those? I was thinking about using some for storing stuffed tubes and adding a humidity button.

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Re: McClintock Light availability?
Posted by Bob on Friday, 17-Feb-2006

I got the containers at K-mart for $2.99. They are guaranteed airtight for life. There is a rubber gasket running around the lid, and 4 clamps to secure it. Holds 190 cigs.

Haven't had any need for buttons, as they seem to easily stay fresh for 10 days or so.

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Re: McClintock Light availability?
Posted by andrew on Tuesday, 21-Feb-2006

D&R said they ordered a new shipment of Mclintock Virginia, so im uncertain if its really discontinued or not. Its possible they dont produce as much as before so some stores quit stocking it. I ordered 3 cans.

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Re: McClintock V availability?
Posted by Dano on Thursday, 23-Feb-2006

That's interesting, when I spoke to D&R early last week (to make an order) they told me that the 10 cans I ordered was all they had in stock and they would have another shipment in 2 weeks, yet here they are selling you some a few days after I made the order. (I bought 10 cans about 10 days before my last order too) Makes me suspect they are putting a limit on how much they sell to a customer at any given time. The problem with that is they should say that up front and not get caught fibbing if that is indeed the case.

As far as being discontinued goes, i'm up here on Long Island and I believe all the smoke shops are supplied by the same company. Every smoke shop I searched for McV in has told me essentially the same thing, McV was bought by a new company and there's no more coming this way, ever.

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Re: McClintock V availability?
Posted by platoslostdialogue on Thursday, 23-Feb-2006

For how much is D&R selling Mcclintock Virginia?

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Re: McClintock V availability?
Posted by Dano on Thursday, 23-Feb-2006

It's something like $8.49 a can plus S&H. Up here they were selling McV in 1 oz pouches for $1.55 so the base price from D&R is cheaper but add shipping and essentially it's the same price or a few pennies cheaper. (for me)

My local tobacco shops sell all the other McClintock brands for $1.05 for a 1 oz pouch.

Apparently D&R sells a lot more things than they advertise on their website.

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Re: McClintock V availability?
Posted by andrew on Thursday, 23-Feb-2006

Actually my order for MCV was when the shipment comes in.

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Re: McClintock Light availability?
Posted by Kevin on Thursday, 23-Feb-2006

I've been MYO since before Y2K & whats with this D&R selling MCCLINTOCK Virginia??? When did I miss the train on D&R's full stock or is this a mistake on others part reporting that http://www.cigarettetobacco.com/ carries more brands than advertised on their website & catalogs I've received from them with orders? Am I mixed up here or others?

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Re: McClintock & D&R
Posted by Dano on Friday, 24-Feb-2006

Yup, they sell McClintock Virginia. The way I found out was I was reading MYO Mag which was saying something about how D&R was going to make the 'replacement' for McV. Since McV can't be found up here anymore I called up to make an order of some Windsail and a few other things.

When the lady answered the phone I told her I got the number from MYO Mag and wanted to place an order and find out about the McV replacement and did they have it yet. Keep in mind this nice lady has a very heavy southern accent and I have a northern accent. So it was like two foreigners yak'n at each other :) When I said McV I don't think she heard 'replacement' and she said, Yeahzzz we have that. I exclaimed You Have McV?? She said Yeahzzz Dear. I said send me 10 cans! (along with the other stuff:) I've since ordered & received more McV from them.

I've only ordered from them a couple or three times and everything arrives in 2 days. Great place but i've never received a catalog. (but they did send me a free Rizla Cig Size Machine when I bought those tubes) Judging from the look of their store front on their website i'd guess they probably sell all kinds of tobacco. (Marlboro's Winston's etc to the walk in public) Or maybe they just stock a bunch of MYO brands for the walk in public and want to focus their mail order on their house brands. I don't know.

But yes, they do sell McV :)

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Re: McClintock & D&R
Posted by andrew on Friday, 24-Feb-2006

I cant say im looking forward to D&R making McClintock's "replacement". All of their tobacco's have left a funny feeling in my stomach. It must be the toppings or whatever it is, but its not conductive to regular smoking. McClintock Virginia was perfect like it is.

We should email the new ownership of McClintock and ask them to continue the Virginia brand unchanged, maybe charge a slightly higher price if they are concerned about profits.

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Re: McClintock & D&R
Posted by Dano on Sunday, 26-Feb-2006

Well if you can find out whom to Email please let me/us know :) I tried emailing Stokkebye one time and never got an answer. I agree McV is perfect as it is and would pay more for it no problem.

I don't know what i'm going to replace McV with if it eventually dries up. I've been puffing on the Windsail Platinum and the Ramback Gold lately. I haven't come to a conclusion. It's like i'd have to keep both of them around and mix a pac 50/50. I also tried the Roland Light from them and although I wouldn't use it as a main smoke it sure has a tasty flavor about it.

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McClintock FF vs Light
Posted by Mary on Saturday, 04-Feb-2006

I am still looking for the right tobacco for myself. I like the McClintock FF, but hate the sweet- fruit like smell. I was wondering if the light had the same smell. Also, I was wondering how much difference there is in taste (strength) between the two of them. My tobacco shop is limited in selection so there are not may tobaccos to choose from at this time.
I have tired Gramber, drum, American Spirit, and Bugler so far.
Thanks
Mary

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Re: McClintock FF vs Light
Posted by V.B. on Saturday, 04-Feb-2006

McClintock light is very light indeed. When moist, I hardly felt anything inhaling it. When a bit drier, it burns hotter and gives more sensation. But I found Windsail Platinum to be more preferable in aroma, strength and flavor, although MC Light is a very fine tobacco on its own terms.

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Re: McClintock FF vs Light
Posted by Bob on Saturday, 04-Feb-2006

McClintock light is currently my usual tobbaco. I have never noticed any fruity smell.

I use it with full flavor ElRey tubes, and the combo is the perfect mild daily cigarette for me.

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Re: McClintock FF vs Light
Posted by Dano on Monday, 06-Feb-2006

My wife converted from Marlboro Light to McC Light several years ago. She loves it. It smells like a regular cigarette to me, that is to say there's no distinctive smell per se. As far as strength goes, it's much lighter then McFF. I've noticed too that if you buy the Light in pouches it's frequently dry but it's properly moist in the 6 oz can.

We picked up a small tub of Roland Light from D&R just to try it out. She said it tasted great but was just a tad too strong , I was suprised because I don't really like light smokes but it tasted suprisingly good to me.

I also picked up some Windsail Premium and Ramback Gold from D&R to try out. The Ramback is alot like McV and the Windsail seemed to me to be a little airyier, not as complex as the Ramback but still had a good taste.

I think any of the tobacco from D&R is going to be a quantum quality leap forward from what you've been smoking and the price difference isn't worth talking about.

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dano on Tuesday, 31-Jan-2006

Low and behold, I just got off of z phone with D&R and much to my suprise they have McV in stock! $8.95 a can! I was rather suprised since I don't see that on their web site anywhere.

Some real nice lady with a HEAVY Southern Accent answered the phone, I said.. the MYO website sent me over here, i'm looking for the McV replacement.. she said, Hold on sweetie... I held for a minute or so.. she comes back and says, Yeahssss we have thaaht. You have it? You have McV in stock?? Yeahsssz we do!

Send me 12 cans! :)

That actually works out to be cheaper that what I was paying at my local store, which was $1.55 + tax per pouch. (Now that I think on it I was paying like $1.15 when I first started getting it a few years back and just never really thought about the price)

In any event, I took ya'lls advice and got some Ramback Gold and a couple of the others mentioned here in the small tubs and i'll let ya know how it all works out.

I also stocked up on the Rizzla tubes (which I can't get at any store around here). Although I use the Zig Zag tubes which I think are fine ... I think the Rizzla (red box) are superior, especially with McV.

Stay Frosty!
Dano

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dano on Saturday, 28-Jan-2006

Well, there's no more McV to be found in this town and I just smoked my last tube of the McV. *GASP* I had an emergency can of Zig Zag that I broke out for the cig & coffee ritual. Man was that a bummer.   

To make matters worse my local tobacco shop which used to stock the Stokebye line now just carrys low end stuff so out of desperation I picked up a bunch of different pouches hopeing to find something smokeable.

When I got home I first broke out the Wildfire Strawberry (made by Top) just to relax with a smokeable cig. Although I couldn't make this my main smoke it sure is tasty and smooth and quite enjoyable. I also picked up pouches of Gauloises Mild Fine Cut, American Spirit Natural & Roll Rich, all of which came nowhere near making the cut. I don't think any McV smoker would be happy with any of them.

However! I also picked up a pouch of Samson Milde Shag. It says "..it's a traditional Dutch blend composed of bright Virginia and ripe mild Burley Tobaccos."

I was pleasantly suprised! It's very close to McV in taste. The color of the tobbaco is almost identical. It's rich & smooth. The difference seems to be the lack of oriental tobbaco because on the exhale you just miss that little something that McV gave you. Also it's cut pretty fine so just a little more attention is needed when making a tube with a hand injector but no big deal. I'll have to smoke it for a couple of days to see if it stands the test of time but for ya'll McV smokers i'm confident this will hold you over until you find the right replacement.

Im gonna try the Windsail Premium. Isn't JR Tobacco working on a McV replacement?

Stay Frosty!
Dano

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Rob on Saturday, 28-Jan-2006

Hi- I also have been a Mc V fan for the last three years but always open to try new smokes--- and by trying to keep up on whats going on in the RYO/MYO world I always read MYO MAG http://www.ryomagazine.com/index.htm
& this meeting of minds & luclily I was able to stockpile a load of Mc V for some time BUT I dont want to brag!
Anyway, I find D&R's Windsail premium nice but the Ramback Gold better as the Windsail Prem. a bit on the weak side, also I think that the three sails by D&R needs a little more work as I find it a little on the harsh side. I still dip into Stockkebye Danish & London Export but overall I think the Ramback Gold is my new daily.

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dano on Tuesday, 31-Jan-2006

Yeah Rob, MYO Mag is great. I ran across it about 3 or 4 years ago while sitting here saying to myself $50 bucks a carton is BS, driving 45 mins to the Indian Reservation for $30 cartons is BS... there must be a better way! :)

I was just about to surf on over to D&R and make an order. Thanks for the tip on the Ramback Gold. I'll give it a try. As for that Samson tobacco I mentioned, after a week it's not going to cut it as my daily. It would be an acceptable back up smoke if one ran out of their regular though. Actually, during this last week and since I had all these pouches and my wife smokes McClintock Light and I was desperate :) I was blending 5 parts McLite with 4 parts Roll Rich and 1 part Gauloises which was kind of interesting but ultimately going nowhere :)

Hey Rudy!
Where's that place in CT? If they are cheaper than ordering online maybe I'll jaunt on over there. I'll tell the wife it's an early BD present, she loves getting off of Long Island. I'll just say, Honey? we're lost, let me pop into this tobacco store to get some directions. :)

Stay Frosty!
Dano

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Rudy on Monday, 30-Jan-2006

After reading this forum over the last few weeks I started to hunt for the McClintock Virginia, I was able to find it at a shop about 20 miles from me in Danbury, Ct. And I was told they could get all I want????
Got to make a run this week to see what I can get from them and I'll let you folks know later in the week.
Rudy

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Thursday, 26-Jan-2006

It's been interesting to read the posts about McLintock FF here, especially after I've been smoking it for the past few months.

When I bought my first pouch of it, it was (typically for pouches it seems) rather dry and the resulting smoke a tad harsh. I've since been buying it by the can and always find it to be exactly as described in the blurb above...very moist with a sweet-ish aroma that translates into a decent, if not earth-shattering, cigarette. I've had better, but not often, and I've damn sure had far, far worse. The FF designation might be a bit misleading to some--I was surprised at how light and mild it tasted in a Zig-Zag or El-Rey light tube--with just a hint of sweetness that I now only notice every once in awhile. Most people around me when I'm smoking it comment on the nice, non-cigarette smell.

I'd say you could do far, far worse than McLintock FF, unless of course you're more of a halfzware or zware enthusiast.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by Dano on Saturday, 14-Jan-2006

What the heck is going on with the McClintock Virginia? I've been smoking it since it first came out a couple of years ago and now they want to discontinue it? What gives with that??

I don't know why they would discontinue it since it's far and away superior to the other McClintock blends (which are pretty crappy actually). Any info greatly appreciated. Any insights on a replacement tobacco that's just as good also greatly appreciated.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by V.B. on Saturday, 14-Jan-2006

Well, it is already discountinued - what a shame! Anyway, I struggled to find a close replacement and having tried several virginia blends can say this: Windsail Platinum - if allowed to dry up a bit (my sample tub was quite moist) - is very similar in strength, and if its aroma/flavor as less "pronounced" than Mc.V., it is also more "subtle" and "refined". Perhaps the difference is that McV adds some "oriental tobaccos" (as per Stokkebey's website description), and perhaps also adds more "topping".
I'd also consider Bali Red - a very, very fine virginia - if its cut/moisture were more stuffing-friendly. It is also quite a bit more expensive while offering no obvious gains in flavor/quality over WP or McV.
   Still, I'll miss McV sorely, as it was the blend whose flavor and overall quality got me fully converted to SYO and allowed me to enjoy myself with 11-12 cigarettes a day rather than 17-20 I used to smoke before.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by V.B. on Tuesday, 27-Dec-2005

I tried to find a replacement blend for McClintock Virginia, but so far with no luck. PS Danish Export is nice (and I absolutely loved it at first), but after a while turned out to be too "tart" for my taste if smoked regularly. (And far too moist for stuffing, taking forever to dry out). D&R Three Sails and Windsail Platinum are both noticeably milder than Mc.V., and far more neutral in flavor. (I also felt that 3-Sails was a bit bitter to my taste). Bali Red is about the same strength, but lacks the flavor.
Apparently, although not stated on the can, Mc.V. is not a pure virginia blend, but contains some "oriental tobaccos" as mentioned on Stokkebey's website. There is also the issue of "topping", which is missing in D&R offerings and is "too much of a good thing" in Danish Export.
   I wonder if anyone knows of a virgina blend that is closer to Mc.V. than those above, i.e., one that is not too mild and neither under- or over-flavored.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by andrew on Thursday, 05-Jan-2006

I would recommend London Export from Stokkebye. I have tried Windsail light and Platinum and found the tobaccoo to be inconsistent, sometimes downright foul tasting, and also noticed the "topping" you mentioned in Danish Export (a dutch/danish topping that many Dutch cigarettes have.) I have not been able to finish off my can of Danish or Windsail.

London Export is virgina tobacoo thats darker in color because its aged longer then most virgina blends but it has a very smooth and mellow taste but without the access "topping" of Danish Export.

Its less harsh than Windsail and slightly milder but better tasting than Danish.

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McClintock Menthol
Posted by Butters on Saturday, 10-Dec-2005

Picked up a trial pack last week.I did not care for this blend.To me,it has a strange chemical taste that does not seem like a menthol smoke.

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McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by V.B. on Saturday, 01-Oct-2005

Somehow my earlier post vanished except for the title. So I repeat. Just tried a sample of McClintock FF and found it a most neutral tobacco as far as flavor/aroma goes. On its own, it might be perceived as bland and lacking individuality. But I always had difficulty combining good tobacco with other sources of flavor - coffee, bourbon, wine - because flavors/aromas often clashed or cancelled each other. This tobacco, however, may be a perfect choice to accompany any beverage without interfering with flavor.

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Re: McClintock Full Flavor
Posted by Dave L on Saturday, 01-Oct-2005

Sorry about the vanishing post. I fixed the problem and moved your post here.

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Re: McClintock Full flavor
Posted by Jennifer on Saturday, 28-May-2005

A friend of mine who does RYO suggested McClintock. So I picked up a pouch along with my regular order from lilbrown. At first it seemed to have a slight funny after taste. The after taste has gone away. I didn't have any real problems stuffing it. Although I have been using my plastic injector rather than my supermatic II. The smoke was quite smooth. At first it was a bit to smooth and mild for my tastes. After many ciggys I have grown to like it. While I don't think it will replace H&R as my main smoke, it will probably be one of the many tobaccos I smoke. Pouches of it are cheap enough from lilbrown that it's worth giving it a try. Maybe next time I order from lilbrown I will order a can of it.

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Re: McClintok full flavor
Posted by Dave L on Friday, 07-Jan-2005

McClintock isn't a harsh tobacco so I would suggest trying pouches of McClintock light and Virginia (yum). If you're not already doing so, try stuffing the full flavor in light and Charbon tubes.

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McClintock Light
Posted by Tim_Mc on Thursday, 20-May-2004

A selection of a slightly milder and smoother Kentucky tobaccos blend with a nice mix of Golden Virginia. It's a classic blend with the expected classic taste. The 13oz tin is tall and packed tight with tobacco. It is a good bargain as are most of Stokkebye's large-tin products. Since it's a light you might expect it to taste light, but what it is, is smooth... with no bitterness or excessive heat in the smoke. It's a very good tobacco for an out of the can stuffing experience. Some may find it to be just slightly too high in moisture content for machine. However, it has not yet been a problem for me and the Supermatic I.

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Re: McClintock Light
Posted by Richard D. Ensminger on Saturday, 07-Jan-2006

I just tried a canister of McClintock Lt. and find it very pleasant. The taste is right and the aroma is very light to the smell. I find it does very well in my SupermaticII, it doesn't jam up like other brands I've tried. Also, to get a verity of taste and aroma, I sometimes add a drop of rum flavoring to one or two of my smokes. McClintock Lt. takes flavoring quite well. I think I've found a good smoke.

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Re: McClintock
Posted by educated smoker on Monday, 01-Dec-2003

I believe this tobacco to be a very inferior blend. it tastes something like a marlboro and a lot of chemicals. it's about as good as top and I know some people that prefer top over this stuff do yourself a favor and just buy top or spend some money and get something better if you like the virginia styles better or just like a lighter smoke try some bali shag turkish shag or harvest and look out tobaccos are very decent.

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McClintock Virginia
Posted by Bob on Tuesday, 30-Sep-2003

I've bought most of the good-bad & wonderfull tobaccos out their at my local smokeshop & online. The McClintock virginia is "The finest quality Virginia tobaccos complemented by select oriental tobaccos, cut for either handrolling or tubing", quote from stockkebye website. If its to moist letting an injecting sessions quantity out of can to dry out 'a bit' will take care of any injector problems as long as you dont overstuff it. but I must agree after trying so many tobaccos available. I was blown away when I first started MYO with a priemer supermatic when I 'discovered' Jester & drum & the dutch style of tobaccos I had no idea what they were when buying premades!!! It was a whole new world of flavor I knew not existed!
This is not an ad & I dont work for stockkebye but I sure like his Virginia blend along with the 'export' line he has-
hunting around the web & following the online links will lead you to the best prices & quality out there & if one brand is too strong try mixing it with another LIGHTER brand you like.
Mark at D&R http://www.cigarettetobacco.com/ has introduced NINE NEW BLENDS recently & FOUR are light blends of already VERY GOOD tobacco-If your new to syo/myo I hope you look around & find what YOU like-because thats what its all about-The money saving seems secondary after a person finds his/her favorite blend, Enjoy!

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Kevin on Friday, 14-May-2004

I must agree with the 1st comment as also trying SO many brands I care for the non or small amount of burley tobaccos & my favorite home blended is my secret that no one may enjoy but me, you have to find what you like.BUT I cant find a better out of the can for the price tobacco than McClintock Virginia, I have to let it dry some out of the can but not to the other extreme of crumbly-so theres no priemer clogging problems. If there were only one tobacco in this price range I could order This would be it-hands down-Great tobacco at an even greater price.

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Barry on Friday, 05-Nov-2004

I dont work for Peter Stockkebye(they make McClintock Virginia in Denmark) but by this review you would think I do! For my money I have not found a more high quality,flavorfull & easy to use in a supermatic than the Virginia blend; Theres not enough oo's in smooth to describe it!
I've been at this for a couple years now & wish the money I WASTED on some of the low quality low cost bags would have been spent on this WONDERFULL tobacco-the cut is just right for injecting & it may be a bit moist right out of the can its worth a little wait,I would rather wait a bit than have to deal with some of the dried out ditch weed that some companies sell as RYO/MYO tobacco!
I'am not the kind of person to tell others what to do so I would HIGHLY RECOMEND this yummy blend from Peter Stockkebye & see what you think & up the ladder a rung or two is Peter Stockkebye's GREAT EXPORT series.
I still order some treats from D&R & enjoy some export 'a' & of course Danish export,a little drum/jester, bali red---you know! its nice to maintain a little tobacco bar! but for a tobacco straight or a base for experablending you cant go wrong here, enough flavor & body alone & even better with a little Ramback Turkish or a more full bodied havlzware.
I just recieved my 'winter order' from Lil brown smoke shack & the date of manufacture code on the bottom of the tins is May 04,2004!!!   

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Rick on Wednesday, 31-Aug-2005

I Just finished reading Doug's newest addition to RYO.com & am VERY disappointed to hear that the fine Virginia by McClintock (Stockkebye) is being discontinued by the background powers that be but at the same time excited to read of D&R's new blends that will be hitting the market soon;just goes to show that a void created by a mega firm fits right into the 'menu' of a smaller firm (D&R) & glad to see that D&R has its pulse on the market. I will miss the orange can!

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Re: McClintock Virginia-being discontinued
Posted by Dan on Wednesday, 31-Aug-2005

What a bummer! I to enjoyed McClintock Virginia - what a shame! guess I'll buy all I can afford & stow it away!

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Re: McClintock Virginia - not in stock
Posted by Tom on Tuesday, 25-Oct-2005

my distibutor is out of Mc Clintock Virgina!
it looks like it is the end my friends :(
look at the other postings here for a replacement, your best, if not the only, option may be D&R.
read the prior D&R postings and you will need to do the "trial and error" thing again until you find what you like.
Good Luck!

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Re: McClintock Virginia - not in stock
Posted by MyFaceFrozeThatWay on Monday, 26-Dec-2005

I just tried a can of the Virginia--it is, indeed, a wonderfully mild (though perhaps a tad sweet, at least to me) blend. Luckily the local shop had 5 6 oz. cans, so I bought them all. But according to them, they can get all I want--they haven't heard of it being discontinued.

Not quite as good to me as the Windsail Platinum, but certainly close enough and I don't have to pay shipping; some may even think it better, especially if you prefer the slightly sweeter aroma/sensation. I could easily get used to this as my main smoke.

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Jws on Monday, 10-Sep-2007

Hello,
A local shop has 2 6oz cans of McClintock V. for $13. Is this really old or are they making it again?

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dash on Monday, 10-Sep-2007

My guess would be that it's old stock, but not really all that old. You might try asking the shop owner.

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dano on Tuesday, 11-Sep-2007

They are not making it again and there's absolutely no hope at this time of ever seeing that brand on the market in the future.

I'll tell you what, give me the name of the shop and I'll order it and let you know if it's smokable or not. :)

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Jws on Sunday, 16-Sep-2007

lol it's Smokers Only at 248-548-3066. They're in Michigan. Knock yourself out. It doesn't look like they'll ship but I can take care of that if need be.

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dano on Thursday, 20-Sep-2007

Well... :) I called them, A Chinese Smoke Shop i'd say.
IF you would be so kind as to call me at 631-893-4026 collect, I'd like to get those 2 cans :)

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Jws on Thursday, 27-Sep-2007

Sorry but I picked up a can before I saw your post just to try it out. The tobacco was very dry, so much for that seal, but it rehydrated all right. I went in today to pick up another can to ship but someone else got it.

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Re: McClintock Virginia
Posted by Dano on Tuesday, 02-Oct-2007

Not a problemo :) I will say that I called that place 5 or 6 times, offered them double the amount they were asking to no avail. It's a good thing they don't do mail order because quite frankly they are the biggest A**holes I've ever run across in a biz environment.

Them> Hello?
Me> Hi, I'm calling from NY, I understand you have 2 Cans McV
Them> MickyV? Ou yez.. ok we have dem
Me> Great! You take Master Card?
Them> Yessie we takkie Massie Car
Me> Ok great, I want you to send them to me, ok?
Them> Oh no no no You haffie call Mr Su! Ok? Callie Mr. Su OK??

It only goes down hill from there :)

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