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Lil' Brown Smoke Shack (LB, LBSS)

They have a pretty good selection of brand name tobaccos at prices that are hard to beat. Their tube selection and prices aren't bad either. Shipping is 8-$10 (depends on order total). If I order before their UPS pickup I get my order the next day (UPS ground, same state). They shipped a wrong item once (out of 10 orders) and UPS picked up the return and delivered the correct replacement item the next business day. I switched to Tobacco General when they could no longer ship tobacco to my state.

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$25 off $75 purchace at Lil' Brown
Posted by Dave L on Saturday, 21-Jan-2012

Use promotion code HappyNewYear25 to get $25 of any order of $75 or more through 4/28/2012.

They're also offering free ground shipping on all online orders placed during the month of January.

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Re: $25 off $75 purchace at Lil' Brown
Posted by G on Tuesday, 24-Jan-2012

Thanks Dave!

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack (LB, LBSS)
Posted by David on Wednesday, 13-Feb-2008

Have ordered three times from this place. Out of the three orders I have had one slight mixup on some tubes. A mixup which I can easily understand what happened. I had ordered one unit of five boxes of tubes & only got one box of tubes.
I called them & spoke to a very plesant lady. As she was reading my order off to me she came to the tubes & told me the problem before I told her. Take it this might not have been the first time this has happened?
The problem was quickly taken care of ( same day ) & the rest of my tubes were on there way to me no questions asked. Such a well handeled response kind of spooked me. But all is well.
The tobacco is fresh, no tube problems & has always shipped the same day to Ohio.
This one mistake will not stop me from buying from this place. In fact the way they handeled the one problem makes me want to buy from them even more. Always use my credit w/ no problems & all items are in perfect condition.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Joe Camel on Saturday, 12-Jan-2008

I couldn't wait to order again. I just had to get the Top-O-Matic and try some other tubes etc. I love the Top-O-Matic by the way. My hand injectors work fine but the Top-O-Matic consistently makes a better stick.
The order was complicated, I ordered several items, 1 of this and that, and I received everything I was charged for / ordered, with the exception of a couple ashtrays. I was not charged for the ashtrays so assume they are either out of stock or discontinued.
They shipped the same day and it took UPS 7 days to reach Florida from Washington State. Which is excellent.
Everything is in perfect condition and once again I am very pleased.
If you haven't tried Lil' Brown lately you owe it to yourself to give them a try.
With all the supplies I currently have it will be a few months now, but my next order will be from Lil' Brown.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Joe Camel on Friday, 28-Dec-2007

I just received my first order from LBSS and am very pleased. I just had to open up everything and give it a try (I ordered 3 different brands and have already picked my favorite). It's all good stuff. Nothing is old (like it is at the local store) and they have a lot more choices than locally. I suspect they have quite a bit of volume. To me that says they have a lot of loyal customers. My next order will be with LBSS. I'm already starting a list but it'll be a couple of months before I need to order. They shipped out the same day as I ordered and the outer box is in perfect condition as is the contents. It's a couple days after Christmas and it took ten days (not week days) to receive my order, all the way from Yakima to Florida so that's pretty fast shipping, especially considering the holidays. I only mention that so others will know to allow time for shipping, it's not a complaint. If not purchased locally, you have to allow for shipping times no matter who from or what you order. Like I said before I'm very pleased with LBSS.

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Lil' Brown COD/Free Shipping
Posted by Dave L on Saturday, 21-Jul-2007

"We can not process credit cards at this time." There's no indication of time-frame, i.e. for how long. As compensation, they are offering free shipping on cash (cashiers check or money order) on delivery orders.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 16-Aug-2007

Looks like the problem has been resolved (the 'no credit cards' notice has been removed).

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Bob on Monday, 20-Aug-2007

Credit card issue is not fixed. When you checkout, it says they will only ship COD. Doesn't work for me, because I work for a living, and can't sit around at home waiting for packages.

Anyone know a cheap source for McClintock light 13oz.?

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by BOB on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2007

Well...it accepted my credit card finally Monday night. I paid (and was charged) for 2 day shipping, as I'm almost out of tobbacco. I expected delivery tommorow.

Got a tracking email today, it shipped UPS GROUND, and expected delivery is the 29th. I will be out by Saturday, Great service...

This is the second time I have ordered from them, and last time they screwed up my order, by not shipping some papers. That's probably my last order from them.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Bob on Thursday, 23-Aug-2007

So now I see from checking my credit card balance, that they charged me $10 more than it stated on the website when I was checking out, and in the email confirmation they sent.

So I called, and they say there is nothing that can be done, it's an extra shipping charge, that does not show on checkout, or in the email. Fraud? I think.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 23-Aug-2007

Is it because the package was shipped 2nd day and weighed between 11 and 20LBS ($27 total for shipping)? [link]

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Bob on Thursday, 23-Aug-2007

I know why they charged it, my issue is that this charge was not shown at checkout, nor any notice that shipping charges may be higher. I should not have to read a vendors entire website to find out real shipping costs, it should be clearly shown on checkout.

When I hit submit order, I am agreeing to pay the amount shown, not a higher amount.

And of course it did not ship second day.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 23-Aug-2007

There's a 'shipping' link in their main menu. While I agree that its not a great setup (I imagine most of what they ship is flat-rate ground), the first line below the total on the checkout page is:

(*) UPS 2nd day rate of $17 ($25 for Hawaii and Alaska) applies for boxes up to 5lbs. Standard rates based upon box weight with origination from Zip Code 98903 apply thereafter.

If it didn't ship 2nd day, I'd do whatever it took to get the extra $20 credited to my card.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 23-Aug-2007

Their credit card issues are explained on the checkout page:

Please NOTE: Due to heavy restrictions on online tobacco transactions we were forced to find an international processor. Therefore your credit card or bank statement will show your order is a charge from "Edelweiss" instead of Lil' Brown Smoke Shack.

Also note that for your first order with this processor, your bank may put a hold on this payment because it is collected from an international location.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Smokin n Jokin on Thursday, 23-Aug-2007

Sounds like it might be about time to start stockpiling tobacco.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Dave L on Tuesday, 04-Sep-2007

The international processor got nixed by Visa/MasterCard and they are back to COD which is $9 for flat-rate shipping.

"How to pay:
We will ship your order C.O.D. This means Collect on Delivery - NOT Cash on Delivery! You may pay by personal check, cashier's check or money order.

Note: this payment method is only temporary. We will be able to accept credit cards online very soon."

The guy I talked to made it sound like the later may be wishful thinking.

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Re: Lil' Brown credit cards
Posted by Fred on Tuesday, 04-Sep-2007

I emailed LiL Brown the link For Bill Me Later so we will see if they check into the service.

[link]

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by stuffitall ken on Saturday, 14-Jul-2007

As long as Bruno the steroid infested packer don't pack your stuff and it shows up damaged from such, great prices and service so far. Still keeping fingers crossed.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by The Ol'Sarge on Thursday, 28-Jun-2007

For me it was about 6 or 7 orders before they screwed one up. I pretty much order the same thing every month. For whatever reason the filler replaced a 16oz bag of Gambler with some Farmer's Gold Light.

Short version. I called three times to get the order fixed, after a week I called the 4th time and spoke with a supervisor. She not only sent out the missing Gambler but some freebies also. I don't remember her name but she kicks butt.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Debbie on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

Darn it ALL. They can not bill or ship to Montana ? WHY ? Oh heck you all gave them such a great review too. Anywhere else that has good prices you can recommend ? Thanks folks

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

That would be because of your wonderful politicians in Montana. Make sure that you e-mail the freaks and thank them for keeping you from shopping wherever and with whomever you please.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Deb on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

Ba@%^$ds ! Thanks, I had no idea it had gotten that bad. I suppose there is nowhere then that I can order online from. My Excel machine just broke and the prices locally are just outrageous.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Smokin n Jokin on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

That surprises me. Montana is one of the most freewheelin states in the Nation. You guys don't even have a sales tax yet do you? Isn't your state motto "Montana; the last best place to hide."

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Deb on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

You what's weird I just sent an email to Custom Blends and they said it was no problem to ship to Montana

Beats the heck out of me now. LOL

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

There's a blurb here: [link] ...D&R won't ship into Montana either. Anyone who ships via UPS is cannot ship tobacco products into Montana...if you find a tobacco shop that ships via the USPS, you should be OK.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

I meant to say that D&R won't ship into Montana UPS but will via USPS. Obviously Montana law doesn't (yet) attempt to supercede federal law when it comes to what and where the USPS can ship. Undoubtedly some goons somewhere are working on a method to enact similar legislation on the federal level. Welcome to 21st century America, where health nazis and anti-smoking gangs have more rights than you or I do, simply because we're smokers.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Smokin n Jokin on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

You might try asking Lil Browns if they would ship some way other than UPS. Like Fedex or USPS.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

It would have to be via USPS...the law applies to all shippers *except* USPS unless you're a licensed tobacco distributor.
Montana is another one of those heavy-handed states that seems to be going out of their way to track down and go after tobacco purchasers for sales taxes (curiously, if you search the Montana Department of Revenue web site for action/forms against other on-line retailers such as Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc., you won't find any. They sure have a hard-on for smokers....: [link]

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by WN on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

Try this link instead (don't know what happend to the one above): [link]

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by SMokin n Jokin on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

Has to be some other kind of tax. Montana has no sales tax.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

My bad...tobacco tax.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Debbie on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007

Thank you for all the information. I guess I better just spend the extra $$$$ and buy the thing here locally.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Old Timer on Friday, 13-Apr-2007

Widest selection of brand name and hard to find brands found on the net. ONLY source I have found for "Blackjack Natural" - my regular smoke. Great selection, great prices, great packaging, great communications, great service - have never had a mistake on orders.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by LBSS - No more American S on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2007

I was going to order couple dozen cans of American Spirit tobacco from LBSS, but their site had no listing from Santa Fe Tobacco any more, at least for the last several days. I called in and the fellow said it is probably some web site error, they will fix it (by yesterday), yet I see no change. Does anyone know any more about this?

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LBSS - No more American Spirit?
Posted by Warren on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2007

Oops, got the name and subject fields swapped above.

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LBSS
Posted by Mike T. on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2007

I just received my second order from LBSS today. I ordered a pound of Blackjack all natural, but received 6 ounces. My order didnít even contain a receipt which I was asked for when calling them to correct the error. They told me they would credit me the difference on my next order. I donít know if this is a rare occurrence or not, but Iíll try them for my next order to see if they get my order correct.

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Re: LBSS
Posted by Smokin n Jokin on Wednesday, 14-Mar-2007

I'd say it was a rare occurrence. I've ordered from them a half a dozen times and they've never made a mistake. They are the only ones I've ordered from that haven't though.

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Re: LBSS
Posted by Mike T. on Thursday, 15-Mar-2007

Nobodies perfect, I will definitely give them another shot.

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Re: LBSS
Posted by Mike T. on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2007

I just received another order from LBSS. Everything was delivered. I will defiantly use them again, nobody can beat their prices.

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Lil' Brown - Missing Package Item, Odd
Posted by Warren on Saturday, 13-Jan-2007

I got yesterday a package from LBSS, with some NAS cans and American Bison. As a Christmas gift, they included an ashtray and two pens. I also ordered 1 pound of King Mountain, but it wasn't in the package, while invoice listed it as charged. So I call in and a friendly fellow said they will package the exact charged content over there, weigh it and compare to the weight they recorded when they shipped my package.

Well, 10 minutes later he called and said the weights matched, so the KM must be inside. I recheck the package, dig out all the popcorn, even though I was sure it wasn't there, and still no KM bag. They will still credit me the missing item, but he said that from now on they will be rechecking stuff shipped to me three times.

What could have happened to the 1 lb bag? The package didn't look damaged or opened (no retaping noticed) and the popcorn included seemed to fill up all the empty space. Could some of their employees in shipping be taking stuff out and writing up the wrong weight? Or is this some little game they use to test whether customer is telling the truth? Strange, either way.

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Re: Lil' Brown - Missing Package Item, Odd
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Saturday, 13-Jan-2007

I dunno, but I do know that any company who seemed to indicate that I was at fault/lying ("but he said that from now on they will be rechecking stuff shipped to me three times") would never get my business again. And I'd make sure they knew that....

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Re: Lil' Brown - Missing Package Item, Odd
Posted by Warren on Saturday, 13-Jan-2007

> any company who seemed to indicate that I was at fault/lying...

Yeah, that entirely gratuitous response did leave a bit of a dark cloud over the peviously quite friendly relation. They were certainly clumsy with their little scheme and it wouldn't hurt them to pick few tips from D&R on how to keep customers. This was some young guy, though, maybe it was just his personal ineptitude. I talked few other times to some very nice ladies there, so I'll give them a break this time. Also I still want to get that King Mountain and they're the only ones who sell it.

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Re: Lil' Brown - Missing Package Item, Odd
Posted by info@lilbrown.com on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2007

Dear Warren,

I was told of your missing product, and i wanted to apologize for the inconvenience. The young man you spoke with was indeed a new employee. What he meant to say was that was the packing lines was at fault and for the missing product and they needed to be triple checked for accuracy so we provide you with better customer service. It is not the intention of this company to imply that the customer is at fault. We do not appreciate it if a vendor does that to us so i personally apologize for my employee's inability to properly communicate with you. My parents have built this company over the past thirty-eight years with the mentality "that the customer is always right" and i share their belief.

Respectfully,

Jennifer,
Lil Brown Smoke Shack Manager

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Lil' Brown Smoke Shack: Returns
Posted by platoslostdialogue on Thursday, 04-Jan-2007

I received a new top-o-matic and a few other things from lil' brown and I was wondering how they were with returns. My can of Spirit is dry as bones and the expensive pouch of three castles is dried up, too. Normally I wouldnt care about the pouch, but that little thing cost a lot of damn money. Has anyone returned anything to them before? THanks

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack: Returns
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Saturday, 13-Jan-2007

If you are willing to rehydrate the tobacco; you won't need to return it. I do it without a thought if the tobacco needs it. But, if I were you I'd complain to them about it. A small, damp sponge makes re-hydration a snap, and sometimes even better than fresh. Mike

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack: Returns
Posted by platoslostdialogue on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2007

Well they sent UPS over later in the week and today I received the package from them. I had them switch NAS for American Bison because Id forgotten to order it, and they through in a free pouch of the Bison. It's pretty dry, but tasty. The Three Castles, however, is a brand new pouch of dried up tobacco, again. I'm not bothering to send anything else back this time.

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Lil' Brown Smoke Shack - Stokkebye Special
Posted by MAJ on Saturday, 09-Dec-2006

For anyone interested, Lil' Brown is running a special on all Peter Stokkebye Tobacco Products. $13.05 for a 10.6 oz. tin.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack - Stokkebye Special
Posted by jcat on Saturday, 09-Dec-2006

thanks for the heads up!the london is one of my favorites,and everyone know`s lil brown is reliable.

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Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Thursday, 07-Dec-2006

My first order with Lil Brown. Ordered on Nov. 30th; delivered on Dec 7th. all the way to Northern Ohio undamaged, packed well and fresh. Lookout Mild Shag $6.40 / 7.05 Oz can. Fair prices on everything. Will definitely do business with them in the future. Mike

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Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Paul on Sunday, 19-Nov-2006

I've used them for about 4 yrs and have always been satisfied. If I've had a problem they would correct it without any hassle. However I have recently moved from the western US to the southeast and I am looking for another source due to the exceptionally loooong shipping times by UPS. I'm talking a minimum of 8 (working) days. I'm not sure who is to blame but I have ordered other products from the NW and it has not been anywhere near this length of time for shipping.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Dave L on Sunday, 19-Nov-2006

Four years for me as well. Being just the other side of the Cascades from them I was used to next day delivery. My last order (Oct) took three days. The slowdown was @ Lil' Brown (two+ days before they shipped it).

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007

That was the only exception so far. I got my Jan order the next day.

If anyone else noticed todays outage is was because their domain name registration expired. It got fixed pretty quick.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by dkj59 on Sunday, 19-Nov-2006

I live in TN. My tobacco orders from Lil' Brown Smoke Shack usually arrives within 5 business days. I buy my tubes from D&R tobacco (which is located in NC). D&R orders arrives in a couple days here.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by info@lilbrown.com on Wednesday, 17-Jan-2007

Dear Paul,

If you would like to try US-Mail you may also place your order over the phone at 1-800-706-2480. Or if on-line ordering is your calling in your comments say "ATT; TONY SHIP US-MAIL" and i will take care of your order.

Sincerely,


Tony @ Lil brown..

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Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by scott johnson on Monday, 16-Oct-2006

   Well, just received my first order from them. various pouches Mynheer, lookout, Jester, etc. Just some new flavors to try out. 60% of the order was so dry that i'll have to re-moisturize it before i can smoke it. took 7 days to receive my order from them. Almost forgot that i had ordered it when it came today.
   Not sure if i'll order from them again unless it would be tinned tobacco or 1 pound bags. I really wanted to try the Mynheer, but it's dry as a bird nest.
   The Jester is so wet, it might have been underwater. The only thing smokable was the McClintock.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Warren on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2006

I order mostly cans (NAS) and had no problem with moisture. Of pouches I ordered from them, yes, they tended to be dry (but I have similar experience with puches genereally and avoid them when I can). Their bulk tobacco (such as King Mountain, which BTW is a pretty good, strong smoke) is fine.

As for their shipping, I am on East Coast (Lexington, MA) and their UPS packages take about a week to get here. It may be UPS or their employees/managers, politicking and piling up on smokers, like everyone else, and putting tobacco related parcels on a "slow track". UPS shipped tobacco packages also tend to have physical damage, crushed or gouged boxes etc. I think LBS should allow US Postal Service parcels option for customers for whom UPS takes too long or damages packages.

They should also disguise packages (and sender's name on the label) to look like something else, not tobacco, so that every anti-smoking jerk along the way doesn't get a chance to kick, stomp and gouge the box.

Otherwise I find LBS very good, not just their pricing but their customer service as well, which is staffed by polite, friendly ladies. For example, on order errors, even when I make a mistake, such as ordering a wrong item, I had no problem returning it and getting refund.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2006

I only ever received a damaged package of tobacco-related products once from UPS. I raised hell with the delivery guy, demanded to have him produce a claim form to report it and then called the last distribution center it went through before arriving here to rip them a new arsehole. It's never happened again, but of course who knows why that one package was really damaged....

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Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Ken on Monday, 28-Aug-2006

I've used Lil' Brown for all my non D&R purchases for the past year and a half. When I tried to do an on-line order this weekend, a screen informed me they no longer ship to Oregon. Anyone know what is up with this or had a similar problem with them shipping to you?

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Jason on Monday, 28-Aug-2006

Evidently this has to do with some Oregon law they may have broken. You can read up on some of the story here. [link] And other people are talking about it here. [link]

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Monday, 28-Aug-2006

The government jackboots who insist on controlling not only tobacco companies as well as us with insane, Nanny State taxes and tactics is begging to wear mighty frigging thin with me. Just as the Nannies have organized in their efforts to ram thier wishes and desires down everyone else's throats, it's way past time for smokers and those who oppose Nanny-istic foolishness to organize as well.

Does anyone have any information on serious opposition gorups to such outrageous thuggery as this as well as any serious-minded smoker's groups active in opposition efforts?

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Ken on Monday, 28-Aug-2006

Thanks for the info Jason,

Another case of Big Brother sticking their nose in. Too bad, because Lil' Brown has always been such a pleasure to do business with. Oregon used to be such a nice place to live too, but these politicians are looking to squeeze every bit of revenue they can out of as many people as they can. We have no shortage of crazy laws in this state.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Kev on Tuesday, 29-Aug-2006

Interesting but I didn't know Lil Brown sold cigarettes. I haven't bought from them in awhile but I only recall SYO/MYO on the cigarette side. They seem to have a huge following for their cigar business and I would imagine some really upset folks in the cigar crowd.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Dan R on Monday, 03-Apr-2006

I tried this company and I am impressed. A shipment which was supposed to take 3 buisness days.. got all the way from the West Coast to the East Coast in 2 days.
Very nice people to deal with.. and their stock is huge.
Just about everything.
They are going to be my one and only shop for me.

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I forgot: Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Dan R on Monday, 03-Apr-2006

I forgot to mention that their prices are very good.
Their H&R line, at 10.50/lb is a super deal. IMO

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Is www.lilbrown.com a legit site
[Mar '06: Moved thread here]
Posted by Mike on Thursday, 06-Oct-2005
I have been looking for some fine miniature cigars and I found lilbrown and I wasnt sure if this site was legit considering how inexpensive the cigars were compared to other sites that I have seen. So I was wondering if anybody is for sure if it is safe to order from this site. Do they offer shipping insurance as well im not sure if they do.

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Re: Is www.lilbrown.com a legit site
Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 06-Oct-2005

Yes and yes. Since they ship UPS, insurance for up to $100? is automatic. See the Lil Brown page for others experiences with Lil' Brown.

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Re: Is www.lilbrown.com a legit site
Posted by Kev on Thursday, 06-Oct-2005

They use to be my primary source of SYO tobacco. Yes, cigars are inexpensive at Lil Brown and I've found their name mentioned in many cigar forums/newsgroups. Service is very good but do not wait to order two weeks before a major holiday. Their order volume is very high at those times and your order may not be shipped for several days. Other times seem to be okay.

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Re: Is www.lilbrown.com a legit site
Posted by Racoonster on Sunday, 27-Nov-2005


Lil Brown is indeed legit. It is now my primary source of Tobacco.

I previously used RYO tobacco http://www.ryocigarette.com/ as my primary, since I thought they had really good prices compared to others like Ziggymart and Custom Blend. But LilBrown is another step better.

Also, you get little or no e-mail support from RYO, a problem is yours to solve there. (Possibly due to language, I don't think RYO does English well for some reason) Though they ship quickly, and usually without problems, they seem unable to respond to e-mails reporting complaints. The 3-4 times over a a couple of years that I got smashed tubes, or poor quality tobacco, I could get no satisfaction through my e-mails. And I am not a nasty e-mailer, I try to use a conciliatory tone.

Lil Brown (And many others ESPECIALLY D&R) respond quickly to complaints and ship replacements (or more) very promptly.

I just wish they carried all the "brand name" pre-packaged tobaccos I use. ESPECIALLY the new Three Castles which I think is a rip-off at the price I've found it at.

( $3.95 for a 25 oz package.-- $71.50 a pound ?!? Does it cure cancer? )

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Re: Is www.lilbrown.com a legit site
Posted by Denny on Sunday, 27-Nov-2005

Re: RYO Cigarette
Posted by Denny on Friday, 18-Nov-2005
Buyer Beware there are 2 RYO dealers out there. One is www.ryotobacco.com and the other is www.ryocigarette.com

I have never had any experience with RYO Cigarette, so I cant comment on them, but from what I have read there not consistent in their practices.

On the other hand I have dealt with RYO Tobacco, and they are one of my preferred dealers. Along with D&R I think they both sell premium tobacco. Also their customer relations are second to none.
Please when posting make sure that you are not slamming the wrong RYO company

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Re: Is www.lilbrown.com a legit site
Posted by jake on Monday, 28-Nov-2005

I have had total satisfaction during the year or so that I have been buying my Mynheer 1/2 Zware from them. Prices seem to be unbeatable and a $200+ order gets a $7 discount on shipping. They are as good and solid as D&R. I extol their virtues now and have done so in the past.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by jake on Tuesday, 19-Jul-2005

LBSS is a great and very friendly retailer. No lower price on the web for my Mynheer and a $7 discount on orders over $200. They sold me a bit over $400 worth of tobacco thus far this year and threw in a Zippo lighter in two of the three shipments. I haven't checked their prices on other brands of tobacco but I suggest that you take a look at LBSS before you order your brand. You might just find a bargain.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by A.Lane on Thursday, 28-Apr-2005

I just placed my 3rd order with Lil' Brown and i have too say that i'm a very satisfied customer thus far.The tobacco prices are hard to beat and the tube prices are not too steep.I agree Ryo Cig has great prices on tubes,the best i've seen.Anyhow i think Lil'Brown is a all around great tobacco shop to do you business with.All orders were complete and packed properly and arrived in a very timely manner from the west coast to the east coast...Give Lil'Brown a shot and see what you think... Thanks , Al

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Lil' Brown-Nov. Peter STOCKKEBYE SALE!!!
Posted by Bob on Saturday, 13-Nov-2004

Lil' Brown has a Nov. 1$ off the Peter Stockkebye 'Export' series in 10.6 oz. cans, at $12.45 its the best price I could find around the web but just let me order my Danish Export before all the rest of you order before they run out of stock, its GOOD STUFF!!!!
https://www.lilbrown.com/Rolling-Tobacco/PETER-STOKKEBYE.htm

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McClintock sale at lil' brown!!!
Posted by Bill on Saturday, 02-Oct-2004

I just saw the sales on lil' brown & IF your a McClintock fan check it out, All 6 Oz. cans are $6.90 & the 13 Oz. can is $10.70; always a good time to stock up on your favorites when the price is lowest & as we say up here in the north woods "squirrel some away!" I've also found lil' brown to be a good place for my cigars. I have so many boxes of tubes from RYOcig's good prices I'am ready for the winter here in Packerland.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Jennifer on Monday, 23-Aug-2004

I just receved my 3rd order from them. I am quite happy with them. Asside from prices. I like the quick shipping since its in state. I don't like waiting for things. So that will be a big factor in me conitinuing business with them.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Bob on Thursday, 19-Aug-2004

I just noticed on Lil Brown's website the following while looking at escort tube prices; a quote.
NOTICE!! ALL CIGARETTE TUBES QUALIFY FOR ADDITIONAL SHIPPING CHARGES IF MORE THAN 5 BOXES ARE PURCHASED!!

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Kev on Thursday, 19-Aug-2004

Seems everyone has changed their shipping charges. RYOCigarette increased theirs but they don't have the weight or volume limits that incur additional charges. My last order was from RYO and since they don't have the limitations, I ordered a split case of Premier tubes which are also slightly cheaper at RYO. Of course I needed some baccy which was slightly higher than Lil Brown.

For my supplies it seems RYO is cheaper on tubes plus you don't get stuck with a size/volume charges. They also carry some tobacco I can't find anywhere else. Lil Brown is cheaper on my base tobacco blends so they'll probably continue to get that business. Of course buying in large quantities helps minimize the shipping costs when you calculate your true cost per carton.

On a side note - due to buying in volume, trying some new items and including a few the spouse likes...how much inventory would qualify my private stock as a business?

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Tim Aydt on Thursday, 19-Aug-2004

"On a side note - due to buying in volume, trying some new items and including a few the spouse likes...how much inventory would qualify my private stock as a business?"

LOL I've asked myself that question several times.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Kurt Wall on Saturday, 21-Aug-2004

Brilliant. Buy more; pay more. Totally perverse.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Dave L on Tuesday, 24-Aug-2004

My guess is that Lil' Brown, as a reservation smoke shop, makes their money on the tobacco (no taxes). Its a bad/stupid move on their part to pull this kind of BS. Its not like they have great tube prices or that tubes add much to the cost of shipping. The old site design was more user friendly than the new as well. Two steps back for Lil' Brown.

RYO Cigarette, with Silver Tip tubes at $1.59 a box, will be getting my tube business.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Jennifer on Tuesday, 28-Sep-2004

I normaly only order 4 boxes of tubes at a time. So the added shipping cost isn't an issue for me. Asside from issues with the new site design, I have no major complaints about them.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Kevin on Friday, 09-Jan-2004

Best prices I've found. Nobody beats their $6 shipping. For bulk cigarette tobacco, I actually like Peoples Pride better than H&R. The new Premier 100mm light tubes are great. Somewhat disappointed with the shipping but it might have been due to the holiday rush. I placed the order on 12/21 (Sunday) and it didn't ship until the evening of 12/23 (2 business days). The order didn't arrive until 01/02 since UPS considers this 4 days of shipping. 2 weeks to get the order to Texas.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by RMorris on Sunday, 02-May-2004

Fourth order from Lil Brown. The UPS shipping is seeming to get faster. Placed a order on monday and it arrived friday. I live in east Texas so that seems about right to me.

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Re: Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Kevin on Thursday, 06-May-2004

I've ordered a few times since my original post. 3-4 business days to Texas. My original order was just after Xmas so I'll blame the holidays for the delay.

They've discontinued carrying Peoples Pride which has grown to be my favorite. I'm on my last pound so I guess I'll be buying direct from Peoples Pride. I'll have the first comment on them as a retailer before month-end.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Tim Aydt on Monday, 22-Dec-2003

After my second order, I am very satisfied with Lil Brown. Both were shipped promptly, customer service was great(not due to any problems), prices are great. I will buy from them again.

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Re: Lil' Brown Smoke Shack
Posted by Bob on Thursday, 02-Oct-2003

Best prices I've found on the net & the Peter Stockkebye Premium "export" line (Amsterdam; Danish; Norwegian; Stokholm & Turkish export) are also the lowest price I've EVER seen. Its a little tricky getting around the site in that some items take a little more searching but well worth the price, If there were not the couple blends I enjoy & order from D&R
http://www.cigarettetobacco.com/
Lil brown would get all my business, ENJOY!

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