Zig Zag
Oct '05: Apparently Zig-Zag is back to being manufactured by the same company that manufactures Top and Gambler. Zig-Zag changes manufacturers on a regular basis so its hard to know what you'll get. The lights were quite plan when CTC was making them. They have offset seams and the lights have filter perforations. Low ~$2.20 per 200.
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- Zig Zag Mini
- Posted by Theo on Sunday, 26-Dec-2010
Hello all.
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I've been on a quest for quite some time to find some slim (6.5 or 6.9 mm) tubes that are available to Europe. I've read about rambacks and would love to try them, but the shipping to Europe is outrageous!
So I stumbled upon these "Zig Zag Mini's"... At first I thought they were shorter, but I found a listing that stated them at 6.5mm.
Has anyone tried them? Are they actually slims or was this listing wrong? Filter quality, build, taste?
I realize I am gonna have to try them, but any feedback would be great!
Thanks all
Theo
- "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by DonD on Saturday, 03-Nov-2007
I just got a box of the new fangled (red and black box) Zig Zag full flavor king size tubes and they are h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e!!! I am no tube scien-teest, but they leave my tongue feeling rough and raw. It's as though I am sucking fiberglass, or something. I really liked the former white box offering. It was smooth and neutral.
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As it stands, I am now back on the tube hunt; seeking something smooth, neutral and above all... CONSISTENT! No mo Ziggies por moi.
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Matt on Saturday, 03-Nov-2007
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Give Bugler a try, never had any consistency issues with them and they are absolutely neutral. (Neutral as long as you don't get them from an incense burning cigarette outlet.)
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by mike c on Saturday, 03-Nov-2007
I'm pushing the limits again, but want to say you have not been forgotten friend, I have my head up to my high forehead in rock-musicians biz at the moment, and this with kitty got me sidetracked...at any rate, he's right about the Bugler, tho' I'm no pro...probably the best commonly available tube out there...further,,,maybe try Rizla or even (ghasp) Zen
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- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by DonD on Sunday, 04-Nov-2007
Thanks, gents! I need all the help and experienced advice I can get! I will give the Bugler a shot. I just always liked ziggies, from my highschool 'daze'. Thanks again!
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- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by stickchick on Saturday, 10-Nov-2007
Well, I'm so new to MYO that I can't comment on any older ZigZag tubes, but I will tell you this...I have tried the Rizla Plus, Premier, El Ray, Windsail and ZigZag, and the ZigZag's have been so problematic for me on my Top-O-Matic. My neighbor has the Premier Supermatic, and she had no probs with them, so I swapped her for some Rizla's, I was having so many prob's with filter voids, tube ripping and general inconsistent diameters and collapses.It was like someone used several different machines to produce them or something. So flimsy when I would go to tap, they'd just fold up at the filter end. All of the other above-mentioned tubes stuff just fine for me, except for the ZigZags.
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- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by mike c on Saturday, 10-Nov-2007
when I was at the shop the other day, I noticed it was only the 100's in the new packaging....
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- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dano on Monday, 12-Nov-2007
Most interesting. Zig Zag had major problems about a year or so ago and then (as far as I could tell) they got back to normal. I use the Rizla Deluxe, they are supposed to be chlorine free (as were the Zig Zags). I don't know what the scoop is but all of a sudden a lot of these tube makers are all of a sudden in different countries.
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- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dave L on Monday, 12-Nov-2007
The only chlorine free tubes I know of are the Rizla "double filter" / "chlorine free" ones. If any of the other Rizla's (or any other brand) were chlorine free, they'd advertise it on the box.
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- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dano on Thursday, 15-Nov-2007
Well... that may well be so. My belief about the Rizla FF/Deluxe being chlorine free was based entirely on something I read in Dougs Mag.
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I believe he said something about Rizla & Zig Zag ff tubes being chlorine free. Naturally I could be wrong, and if so, I stand corrected. Actually I just did a quick search and can't find the reference so... I stand corrected :)
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by mike c on Tuesday, 13-Nov-2007
currently using up some Rizla + FF....I notice you mention the older De Luxe....imagine you know/use these newer ones or have tried them,,,I'd say this is a case of OK change-over, they seem great and neutral to me...your opinion?
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probably my favorite tube of all, except they don't hold up at the tipping end as well as the Zen
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dano on Thursday, 15-Nov-2007
Yo Mike,
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Yes you're right. I've used Rizla as my main tube for many years. I just instinctively call the new ones Deluxe :) I don't see any quality difference since they changed to the new box etc.. and I don't have any problem stuffing them at all.
I'm sure that I, like you have tried just about all the tubes. I found Rizla to be the most neutral and Premier's to be like smoking a Mexican Donkey's Butt :) The are some decent other tubes but the problem I find is that you can't just stuff 1 tube and tell if it's good for you or not, you have to smoke a few packs before it hits you and you realize .. Oh Man! This tube just doesn't make it.
The only problem I have with the new Rizla is the box. It's UGLY! :) What the hell were those people thinking?? :)
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 15-Nov-2007
The new Rizla (previously made in Germany) and new Premier tubes are made in the same Canadian factory (not the old CTC/Premier one). I would be very surprised if there were any difference in materials or construction... P.S. just doing my job, not picking on you.
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- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by mike c on Thursday, 15-Nov-2007
Dave the Premier tubes were the one tube I cringed on.....there must be a difference, also considering the multitude of bad publicity we've had here....
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strange, I agree, and I am of course, open to your greater understanding on all these matters, but surely I am not that braindead, quiet yet?? or am I???
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dano on Monday, 19-Nov-2007
Naaa... I didn't consider it being picked on at all :) And frankly I didn't know that Premier and Rizla are being made at the same place now. However the last time I had Premier tubes (4 or 5 years ago) there was a visible difference in the paper compared with Rizla and other premium tubes. The paper seemed to be thicker and reminded me of almost being like wrapping paper where as premium tubes seemed to be much thinner.
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If they are both being made at the same place with the same materials are you saying the Premier now has a readable graphic on it? (instead of the washed out print it used to have?) Are the Rizla Cig Size being made there also?
AND :) what I'd really like to know is... what happened to the old Rizla cig making plant? Did it burn down? Was it turned into a parking lot? Is it making other brand tubes? Why did Rizla switch to Canada and how long will it stay in Canada? :)
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by mike c on Monday, 19-Nov-2007
after I though about it some more-
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I thought of a paper difference too.....I thought the Rizla's seemed less stiff and firm, more of a natural "gentle" paper.....I also thought I remember a circumference diff too, that the premiers were tighter, though I could be wrong
either way, they just CAN'T be the same tube
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dave L on Monday, 19-Nov-2007
There used to be a huge difference between Rizla/ElRey (EFKA/Germany) and Premier/Escort/Rayo (CTC/Canada). They were made by different companies in different countries. They are now owned by the same company (RBA/Imperial/EFKA) and made in the same factory. You can tell what tubes are made there by the boxes which have a full length lid flap that is glued down on the outside of the box.
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I don't know the current status/availability of the Rizla double filter/chlorine free tube (D&R is known for stockpiling and that's the only place I've seen them) but it seems likely that they are either still being made in Germany or are now being made, like the Cigarette Size (more), somewhere else in the EU. TTBOMK those are the only Rizla tubes not being made in Canada.
My guess is that the switch to Canada was economics and that the tubes made there are made for the North American market only.
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by mike c on Monday, 19-Nov-2007
Dave- seriously - for the SYO site sake, smoke a Premier, and then a Rizla + full size, and give your opinion...if you still say the same, I will admit I have quite a flight of imagination
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further, if you would be so kind to answer my post asking for a means to a just slightly longer plug, please do per your schedule
and last, did you get a hopper for that C model yet and compare to the TOP???
thanks
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by mike c on Thursday, 15-Nov-2007
after I sent the post I caroused the archive and found (to my pleasure) we agree on the Rizla De Luxe-turned-+-in orange box.....I'm considering a switch, I think they are so damned good I can do away with the Zen/Smokers Gold stronger tipping...now if we can just get 250 count!!!
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chlorine-free wouldn't surprise me as great as they are!!!!!!
aside: I was tiring of the old dark red box, it's just this new one is a bit too orangy (or orangey), or (orangie)...maybe a tweak or 2......when they take my advice and add 50 ct a carton...thanks response
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Dano on Monday, 19-Nov-2007
Yo Mike, before I posted this reply I dug out an old box of the Deluxe to compare with the new. The only difference I seem to see is that the striations around the tube are more opaque on the new ones, which would seem to indicate that perhaps the paper is a tad thicker?
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Ultimately both the taste & the printing on the tube seem to be the same. Call me a snob but I think that a company should take the time to actually do a professional job printing their Logo on the tube. Rizla & Zig Zag seem to be the only tubes that lend care to this area consistently. (The Rizla Cig Size tube is a really really nice looking tube, tastes good too:)
I agree with you , the new + box is TOO Orange! Man! Hurts the eyes! :)
- Re: "New" Zig Zag Full Flavor sucking
- Posted by Eddie on Wednesday, 06-Apr-2011
I role my own cig's as well but I usually use Bugler and you mention that these filter tubes have Chlorine. "I did not know that", I was having difficulty smoking one so I broke it off at the filter to find the problem and a white powder like substance poured out of the filter. Have you ever heard of anyone else finding this with their tubes? Could this be excessive chlorine/defect from the manufacturing process? This could be dangerous so if you know anything more about this please comment further.
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- Re: Zig Zag
- Posted by Jim on Wednesday, 01-Aug-2007
My first box of tubes was Premier Lights. I didn't like the short filters. Then I tried Zig Zag light 100s. Better but there was a distinct paper taste. Then I tried the Zig Zag Full Flavor 100s and have been using them. They don't have the paper taste of the lights, and with the longer filters the 100s are a bit lighter than a king size full flavor.
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I have to wonder if they've made a change in production method recently. The tubes in my current box are a bit smaller than the others I've used and fit tighter on my supermatic's tube. The diameter is very close to that of standard pre-made 100s. The difference is the Zig Zags are about the thickness of one layer of paper larger.
All of the Zig Zag tubes I've bought were made in Austria.
- Re: Zig Zag Full Flavor King Size
- Posted by Turtle on Sunday, 24-Dec-2006
I'm not sure if these are the old or new but the box says made in Austria. These are the best tube I've found. more expenseve than the rest here local at $3 a box but worth it.
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- Zig Zag Full Flavor 100's
- Posted by Jay on Friday, 25-Aug-2006
Anyone tried these Zig Zags? I heard some good comments on Zig Zags, although the comments I read are limited to Zig Zag Light 100 tubes. I'm interested in giving the FF's a try. I assume these tubes would still work with my Supermatic machine.
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For 3 bucks per 200, Zig Zag FF 100s BETTER be good for tubes if I decide to give them a try!
- Zig Zag / Premier
- Posted by Denny on Sunday, 16-Apr-2006
Hi I been stuffing my own since August of 05. Both my wife and I have been using Premier 100 lights. Lately we have been experiencing some really bad flavors that seem to be emitting from the tubes. Also both my wife and I have had cold like symptoms all winter long (very unusual). In the last week we have been trying different tubes, and have been buying them from different places, rather than our local smoke shop. What a difference! After 4 months,our colds are going away, and I can finally smell things again.
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I am not sure if it was the way the tubes were stored, or the manufacture of the tubes, but I had one of the worst cases of thrush my doctor has ever seen. Either way we are done with the local smoke shop, and Premier tubes. Can any one recommend a light 100mm tube that has a neutral flavor, and is consistently made? We have been thinking about Zig Zag. and I even been trying some of the light and full flavor kings. So far the wife likes Zig Zag, and I like El Rey lights, I also heard that Rizla is a good tube.(Any Info?) Thank god we aren't smoking what ever made us sick all winter long, as I thought we may have picked up a terminal illness. Anybody with tube suggestions or comments PLEASE?
- Re: Zig Zag / Premier
- Posted by Matt on Sunday, 16-Apr-2006
Don't buy tubes from cigarette outlets / head shops that burn incense. There is a shop in my area that's merchandise is permeated with layers of nasty soapy incense. Incense is why I can understand smoking bans. If I'm expected to accomodate, I expect the favor returned by banning incense burning and cologne bathers indoors. (Wait a minute, that'd be infringement of rights, would'nt it?)
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- Re: Zig Zag / Premier
- Posted by JD on Sunday, 16-Apr-2006
Man, ain't that the truth! I detest shops who insist on seling (and worse, storing in close proximity to tubes and tobacco) incense and other aroma-producing things like candles and sprays. I drive 20 miles out of my way to buy my tubes from a shop that doesn't sell that crap just to avoid having contaminated tobacco and tubes.
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I doubt the tubes have had anything to do with colds and thrush, however. Sounds like a batch of moldy tobacco.... I purchased a pouch of Bali red once that, when I opened it, emitted a very light cloud, almost like a wisp of smoke. I thought the damn thing had already started smoking itself, but when I looked closely at the tobacco, I could see a faint, powdery appearance. Needless to say it went straight back to the shop....
- Re: Zig Zag / Premier
- Posted by JD on Sunday, 16-Apr-2006
The ZigZag Light 100's are generally decent tubes, but I've noticed quite a bit of inconsistency with them over the past couple of months, far more so than the ZigZag Light kings. I rarely use 100s any longer, though, so I'm not familiar with any others.
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That's a good point you raise, however. Tube quality is one of my major complaints about MYO; my tried and true El Rey Light kings have even gone downhill lately, and I've been a faithful and devoted user of those tubes for a couple of years and have talked them up constantly. If any manufacturer ever gets their act straight and cranks out a consistently high quality tube, they'd corner the market...at least my portion of it. ;-)
- Re: Zig Zag / Premier
- Posted by Dano on Monday, 17-Apr-2006
Why back when, I tried a box of Premiers. I rolled a couple or three packs. After the first few smokes I could taste the paper. Somewhere around the end of the second or start of the third pack I could really taste the glue. I too was getting congested. I threw the Premiers out and chalked it up to the quality of the paper and glue. You couldn't give me a smoke in a Premier tube.
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Personally I like the Rizla Deluxe FF tubes. I think they are excellent. I also think the Zig Zag tubes are equally good and use them when I can't get the Rizla's.
Some have mentioned a quality problem with the Zig Zags and I agree that there was. For a time the Zigs came with no logo on them and were really shoddy construction wise. That problem was apparently fixed several months ago when I believe they changed manufacturers. I also noticed that problem seemed to be confined to the 100 count boxes of Light tubes. So if you go into a store and get a 100 count box, open it first and if there's no Logo and it's just a plain white tube you know you don't want it.
I stuff Zig Zag lights for the wife and she loves them. It's also my understanding that Zig Zag, Top & Gambler Lights are all now made by the same company. Same good looking tube just different price. I now use the Top Lights for the wife because they're cheaper and the same quality.
- Re: Zig Zag
- Posted by Bill on Thursday, 20-Oct-2005
I've been buying zig zag light tubes at our local shop and at American Thrust. All of the tubes I've puchased have two gold bands and gold zig zag. They don't look like the ones pictured on the tubes description page. They look just like gambler tubes. We like these tubes. They are much better than the zen tubes we tried at first. Plan on trying the silver tip lights sometime soon.
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- Zig-Zag Full Flavor 100's
- Posted by Tim S. on Wednesday, 12-Oct-2005
These are the first tubes I ever got, they was ok tubes but nothing specail. They inject ok with my supermatic blue, I had no problems with them. I charged over to perm king tubes, and they seem just a bit better. Not by much, but for the money these are just ok. The perm king tubes are only $1.44 a box, so I felt the perm kings was a much better deal.
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These are not bad tubes, just that I had to pay $2.00 per box. I got a perm kings box free with my supermatic blue, and they was only $1.44 per box at the tobacco shop. So I got them instead, but nothing about the zig-zag was bad. I just injected a few packs of the zig-zag, that I have left and they was ok.
On a scale out of 1 to 10, 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. I would rate these over all a 6 at the highest, and a 5 at the lowest. If I could find these cheaper then other brands, I would buy them like the perm kings was. Tim S.
- Re: Zig Zag
- Posted by Jennifer S on Saturday, 22-Jan-2005
Terrible!
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Had to buy these, as my local retailer was out of the Premier Light 100's.
They have an added taste, are hard to draw, and are harder to stuff on my Premier Supermatic injector.
- Re: Supermatic Premier
- Posted by Tim Aydt on Thursday, 12-Aug-2004
Must be a bad batch. I have always found the ZigZag 100's to be, if anything, a little big. I can usually slip them on the nozzle with little conscious effort, unlike some other brands I have used, usually kings. The Premier 100's fit more snug, at least the light tubes. Are you using ZigZag 100's light or regular? I think it was with the ZigZag king regular that I had trouble.
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Good Luck, have you tried twisting the tubes as you slip them on the nozzle?
- Re: Supermatic Premier
- Posted by Bill S. on Saturday, 14-Aug-2004
It is the Zig-Zag "full-flavor" 100mm's. The El Rey tubes that I was using never gave me a problem. Then I found the Zig-Zag tubes on sale, and bought a case. Has anyone had experience with the various Menthol tubes. I bought some Stokers #117 Menthol as it was advertised as being a highly mentholated tobacco. Normally I smoke the Stoker's #2 menthol because it has a lot of menthol. I found that the "Iceberg" was also highly mentholated, also. I think that I am going to have to find some menthol tubes to try this #117 menthol with, in order to use it up. The #117 is very smooth, but with not much menthol. I am looking for some alternative strong menthol tobacco in case my supply of Stoker's #2 diminishes. Does anyone know of another highly mentholated stuffing tobacco? I think I discovered why I prefer the 100's over the king-size, and I think that it maybe due to the increased filter length of the 100's. I had some Farmer's Gold Menthol that I re-hydrated that was pretty harsh and hot in the King-size. I have been able to use it up now that I got the 100's thing to work. I don't think that I will buy the FGM again due to the harshness that I found.
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Back to the tube thing, I have tried every possible method to making these work. I have twisted them, turned them and they are about impossible to use with the Supermatic. I even tried re-hydrating them to add a little moisture so that the rice-paper may stretch a little. I can get them to just barely start over the nozzle then I have to help them a little by prying them on with a fingernail and tapping on the filter end just lightly. I think that they were just possible made off spec. They will, however work on my hand injector, as is; and a friend of mine that is an Excel owner said that his excel nozzle is a little smaller than most hand machines, and he would try them to see if they would easily insert on his machine.
- Re: Supermatic Premier
- Posted by Jim on Monday, 25-Oct-2004
I've run into problems with tight tubes a few time. I use a small pair of scissors with a sharp point and gently "ream" the end of the tube with these and it works fine. The biggest problem I've had with tubes lately were several boxes of Premier full-flavor which weren't properly glued.
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- Zig-Zag Full Flavor
- Posted by Tim Aydt on Wednesday, 21-Apr-2004
Boy, talk about a difference between light and FF. I ran out of tubes over the weekend and the only ones sold in town are Zig-Zag Full Flavor. The blend that I normally smoke in a light tube was so strong and overwhelming that I couldn't even finish an entire cigarette. You really get FULL flavor with these.
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- Re: Zig-Zag Full Flavor
- Posted by Tim Aydt on Friday, 23-Apr-2004
Now I wonder if the paper isn't adding flavor to the smoke from these tubes. I just smoked the same blend through an Excel filter-less tube and found it to be surprisingly good.
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- Re: Zig Zag Light
- Posted by Tim Mc. on Thursday, 05-Feb-2004
I KNEW something was up with the Zig Zag Lights!! Thank you for the information regarding the new construction. I had a stockpile of these tubes from 1999 when I bought a cases of them. They used to be so hard to find. And yes, then, I think they were the best out there. Their construction was unmatched. But as I started getting low on my supply I tried procuring new ones. Indeed, I have noticed a change in the quality of the tubes. Oftentimes now there is a bit of air leakage at the back of the tube between the filter and the paper. Very poor.
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I am sure that Zig Zag switched manufacturer's as they were having trouble filling orders. What a shame. Maybe the should of helped the manufacturer expand their capacity instead of switching, because they really used to have a surprisingly fantastic product.
My love for the old tubes will never fade away. I hope that they return to their past manufacturer or manufacturing methods as I only have a few 200 ct. boxes left!
- "new" Zig-Zag Lights
- Posted by Tim_Mc on Wednesday, 26-May-2004
Forgetting this conversation that we had here, I saw that the new owner of the cigar shop I live over (lucky me!) started carrying these tubes. So I bought the two boxes he had in stock.
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When I opened them yesterday, imagine the big smack on the forehead I gave myself! I cannot believe how ugly these things now are. And the spot gluing is really really apparent now.
I will give CTC tubes one more chance. If I order some fresh product of any of their tubes and it turns out to have the same leakage as the rest of their stuff (particularly the initial run of Nocturnes) I may not buy their stuff for a real long while. There aren't many alternatives but I just can't have this inconsistency. I long for the days just a few years ago when I was getting non-stop high quality Zig-Zag light tubes that ALWAYS served me well.
*sigh.
- Re: Zig Zag Light
- Posted by Sambo on Thursday, 21-Apr-2005
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Complete newbie here.
I just received my first starter kit from D&R and because I'm a Zig Zag fan, ordered two boxes of Zig Zag Light tubes. I placed my order with D&R prior to finding this site, and so was releived when I'd found that they shipped me the 'old' style tubes.
Being completely new to this, I'm not sure what this means. Are they selling off remaining stock of old tubes, or has Zig Zag gone back to making the original style?
- Re: Zig Zag Light
- Posted by Sambo on Monday, 06-Jun-2005
Bought a box of Top light tubes at a local shop today, and was surprised that they appear to be the exact same as the Zig-Zag light tubes, with the exception of the logo.
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Exactly the same.
- Re: Zig Zag Light
- Posted by Tim Aydt on Friday, 26-Sep-2003
Zig Zag Light: I was disappointed in these tubes. Having already smoked the Zig Zag Light 100's, and been very satisfied, I expected these to be a shorter version of the same tube. They are not. My wife and I both prefer micro-perforated paper to laser perforated filters. I purchased a box of these for my wife and she didn't care for them as well as the Premier Lights. She claims that laser perforated filter tubes are harder to draw through than the micro-perforated paper tubes.
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- micro-perf VS laser perf
- Posted by Dave L on Friday, 26-Sep-2003
Laser perforated tubes can introduce more fresh air and dilute the smoke more. A tightly packed moist tobacco will cause a noticeable increase in fresh air through the perforations. Tubes using micro-perforated paper are more forgiving. Generally laser perforated tubes make for a bit lighter smoke than tubes using micro-perforated paper.
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- Re: micro-perf VS laser perf
- Posted by mike on Thursday, 28-Dec-2006
Totally agree. I have found that the zig-zag tubes (perforated) give you a much hotter/dryer/harsher smoke. I Like the Premier lights because they are micro-perforated. When a tube is packed too tight, the zig zag is near impossible to smoke, where the Premier remains smokable.
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- Re: micro-perf VS laser perf
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Thursday, 28-Dec-2006
I've never been a big fan of the Premier Lights; they seem to unsatisfactorily colour the flavour of most tobaccos I tend to smoke (the exception being Ramback, for which I use the Premier Lights exclusively). Like most other aspects of MYO, I've found that what tastes great in one tube might taste shite in another; I typically smoke Windsail Platinum as an everyday smoke...and properly dried (meaning after stuffing a pack I don't have to scrape gunk off the top edge of the cutter block), it tastes like heaven in a Zig-Zag Light and terrible in a Premier Light. While the style of perf is certainly a variable, there are many others that can or may negate the effects of the perfs--like glue, the paper itself, the denisity and type of filter, etc.
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I'm sure certain tobacco tastes, flavours and toppings most likely have particular air-to-smoke ratios that tend to enhance (or not) the taste depending upon the style of perfs--all other things being equal.
I've discovered that I prefer certain baccys in certain tubes and can honestly tell the difference when I have to make a substitution.
- Zig Zag Light 100's
- Posted by Tim Aydt on Friday, 26-Sep-2003
The Zig Zag Light 100's Tubes: I like 100's and this the only Light/100's tube that I have found so far, but, unless CTC comes out with a Premier Light 100's tube, I don't plan on changing. These are excellent, the paper is micro-perforated so there are no perforations in the filter, which I don't like. They add no taste to the cigarette and are easy to stuff. They have two drawbacks, the filter is not glued in good, occasionally the filter gets pushed out a little, and they are on the high side, $2.99 per 200
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- Re: Zig Zag Light 100's
- Posted by Bob on Thursday, 02-Oct-2003
I too like the zig zag light 100's-I was surprised by the ease of filling with the priemer supermatic-they taught me a little more about quantity of tobacco needed in the injector & after 2-1/2 years of making king size only showed me again how I tend to overfill the injector!!!I guess I recieved a "perfect" out of the box priemer supermatic because EVERY TIME I have a problem its back to the basics of using tobacco not to moist & NOT TO OVERFILL the tobacco slot! If only I would believe those darn directions!
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Enjoy!!!
- Re: Zig Zag Light 100's
- Posted by irishguyincc on Wednesday, 13-Apr-2005
I recently purchased a box of these tubes. They smoke fine, but man are they ugly. Not that I really care about appearance, but the tipping paper is of a different length on each tube, and is poorly glued at the seam.
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- Re: Zig Zag Light 100's
- Posted by Runs with Scissors on Monday, 02-May-2005
I also smoke 100mm lights. There's a local shop that sells Zig Zag's so it would be convenient to purchase tubes there. Is there any way to determine if the tubes are the "old style" by the outside of the box?
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Thanks.
Bill
- Re: Zig Zag Light 100's
- Posted by Runs with Scissors on Tuesday, 03-May-2005
I found them locally and they were the tubes with "Zig Zag" printed on them. They were $2.25/box and seemed fine as far as construction and quality are concerned.
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I think I prefer the way they taste and smoke over Premier Lite 100 tubes.
Bill