Posts from Jul 2006 to Feb 2007
General SYO topics, anything that doesn't fit in a topic specific forum - Tobacco, Machines, Tubes, Cases, Retailers.
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- What's the deal
- Posted by smokin n jokin on Friday, 19-Jan-2007
With a dollar a pack increases in the price of cigarettes in Arizona, Texas and a few other states you would think there would be a lot of new posts everyday from people wanting info about making your own cigarettes. I guess they all either decided to quit or just bend over.
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- Re: What's the deal
- Posted by scott johnson on Friday, 19-Jan-2007
I know. Here in West Virginia, the legislature is about to vote in another $1/per pack tax.
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I tell people about MYO and give away samples, but no one wants to make their smokes for $7/carton. Instead, they buy these off-brands that taste like lawn clippings and smell like someone is burning garbage.
I think these people would rather give out $4 per pack, buying one pack/day, than to invest a few dollars more into a simple hand injector and box of tubes. Heck, TOP has a starter kit for $10 now with an injector, 100 tubes, and 2 pouches of tobacco. couldn't get started much cheaper than that.
- Re: What's the deal
- Posted by Keith on Saturday, 20-Jan-2007
Scott, where you at in WV? I live in Logan. Anyway, I think a lot of people look upon MYO as something inferior. They think that premades (even the generics) are the better cigarette. I know before I started stuffing my own smokes, I thought they would taste awful but would save me some money. Little did I know that I could get inexpensive smokes that taste tons better.
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- Re: What's the deal
- Posted by scott johnson on Saturday, 20-Jan-2007
I'm in lincoln county. take 119 north to Julian. bout a hour away.
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I thought the same. But as much as I smoke, It was costing me about $250/month to support my habit! I'm so glad I started making my own.
- Re: What's the deal
- Posted by Dave Grant on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2007
"I tell people about MYO and give away samples, but no one wants to make their smokes for $7/carton. Instead, they buy these off-brands that taste like lawn clippings and smell like someone is burning garbage."
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I think much of it is they think it'll just take too much time. I tell 'em I can make a pack in 5 minutes or so and get a rather skeptical look.
I think many people start off with a hand injector, and then give up when they can't turn out perfect smokes right away. For many folks, the learning curve seems to be a bit steeper with a hand injector than with a crank machine.
Then there are the ones who don't pay attention to the caution; "DON'T OVERSTUFF", and break their crank machine and give up. I know I've seen a number of broken machines at yard sales , etc.
- Re: What's the deal
- Posted by mike c on Friday, 19-Jan-2007
just today I asked a lady friend very perfectly and very matter-of-fact, was it inferiority that provides the lack of interest in SYO for her, as she is suffering that very new tax
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here it is: most people don't want to deal with the hassle involved in making them. that simple
if someone sends a glove to help remind my posting hand to use restraint, I'll do it
- Re: What's the deal
- Posted by Mike T. on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2007
The problem could be bad experiences with the first few tries. My first RYO attempt was about a year ago with some Bali Shag Blue, and a pack of zig zags. I tried to roll some cigs a few times, and gave up. About a week later my friend (an ex-pot smoker) showed me how to properly roll a cigarette, and I have never bought a pack of premades since.
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- Nasty Tailor Mades
- Posted by Matt on Saturday, 13-Jan-2007
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I've just moved and haven't dug out all of my rolling supplies from their boxes. In my laziness I bought a couple packs of Winstons. ($3.69 a pop!) What a joke these cigarettes are! In an obvious attempt by RJR to keep smokers addicted, they've perforated the filters. Not only that, these and any other premades make me hiccup, usually at the rate of every other one I smoke. What's the deal? Plus these aren't nearly as fun to smoke since I didn't make them myself. On the positive side, these sticks of crap only smoke for 4 minutes. I can't wait to be through with these so I can go RUNNING back to Two Timer and S.J. Rimboche.
- Re: Nasty Tailor Mades
- Posted by mike c on Saturday, 13-Jan-2007
when i first came aboard..i read your post about being able to put out a cigarette half-way through...I was a bit jealous, as it seemed to me that my SYO smokes may not even be lasting as long as the pre-mades....THANK GOD I ARRIVED...now with the machines, I get such a good smoke I often smoke half, and then save.
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the premades just reached the 5 dollar-a-pack mark here...I just avoided it.....and I agree...you get used to "crafting" your smoke..
cheers
- How many
- Posted by Keith on Monday, 08-Jan-2007
How many king size cigarettes can you make using a 6 oz bag of tobacco?
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- Re: How many
- Posted by Dano on Monday, 08-Jan-2007
Hard to say. Off hand i'd say a 1 oz bag will make about 30 cigs give or take. If you have a 6 oz bag with shake in there you're not doing anything with that.
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Also, if you're using the Rizla Cig Size Tube you'll be making more cigs per oz.
It all depends on how dry the tobacco is, tube size etc. I would think off hand you should expect about 28 to 32 cigs per ounce. (conservative estimate)
- Re: How many
- Posted by mike c on Monday, 08-Jan-2007
9 packs is a good simple answer.
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- Re: How many
- Posted by Dano on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2007
Yeah, that's what I said, 28 to 32 cig a pack, about 9 packs give or take.
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- Re: How many
- Posted by Dave Grant on Monday, 08-Jan-2007
It depends: what brand/cut of tobacco, percentage of shake, how soft/firm you like 'em. I could go on, but, roughly I get about 8 packs (160 sticks) from a 6 oz. bag of Gambler, Stokers #2, and the like.
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- Newbie questions
- Posted by Keith on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
I'm wanting to start stuffing my own cigarettes and need to know a decent set up to buy. I want to use tubes and would prefer to start with a small injector then upgrade to a larger injector later. Would a Zig-Zag Precision Pro injector and Premier tubes be a good starting point, or should I be looking into something different?
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by scott johnson on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
I got started with a ZIG-ZAG kit. It came with the injector, 200 tubes, and 6oz tobacco. about $15 I think.
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Smokers warehouse has a really good deal. A supermatic II injector, 3 cartons of tubes, and enough tobacco for 3 cartons for $26.90. That's less than what the machine costs anywhere else. it's a subscription service but you can cancel after one month if you don't like the tobacco. You might get them to give you 2 cartons of full flavor tubes, and one of light tubes so you can try it both ways.
Most local retailers here have either the zig-zag or Top start kits.
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by Keith on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
I just went to my local tobacco store and discovered they have Stokers #2 for $15.49 lb. and gambler tubes for $1.59/200. I picked up 2 boxes of tubes and a bag of the Stokers plus a Zig Zag injector. I wanted to try this to save some money but I discovered how much better these cigarettes taste! I figured with the savings, I would take a drop in quality but to my surprise, the quality is much better. Now I'm going to have to get one of the better injectors to use.
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by scott johnson on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
I started with a zig-zag, then bought a premier excel, then got the supermatic. I will state that i like the supermatic better. you can use moister tobacco with the supermatic. also, try some other tubes. i use premier, zen, vera cruz, bugler, top, and zig-zag. I didn't like the taste of gambler tubes. tasted like burning paper to me.
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by jcat on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
rizla cig size is the better handheld in my opinion.you can find the starter kit in most smoke shops.the blue rizla handheld is also good.
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by ikonoklast7 on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
Here's a tip, especially if you're starting with a hand-held injector, that I wish I'd know...
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Pack the ever-loving Jesus out of that cigarette after you inject. Hand-helds (and to a lesser extent, bigger table-top models) usually have some tobacco hanging out of the end of the tube and not enough down against the filter.
So hold the cigarette loosely in your hand, filter facing the table (or whatever level, hard surface you're going to use to pack it), then kind of throw it down to the table top, making the filter hit and forcing the tobacco that's hanging out the end to be packed tightly in the tube against the filter. (Sorry, it's kinda hard to describe, but it's like the way you probably packed pre-made cigs on the palm of your hand when you still smoked them)
If you go to www.andromedan.com/movies/injector1.wmv you can see what I'm talking about.
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by ikonoklast7 on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
Wait, I screwed up. The video you should see is...
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www.andromedan.com/movies/injector2.wmv
Go to about 2:50 on it and it shows you the way you pack a SYO cig.
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by Keith on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
Thanks for the video. I'm going to get one of those crank machines.
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by ikonoklast7 on Friday, 05-Jan-2007
Definitely do! They're well worth the extra cash, make cigs for you three times quicker than hand-helds, and in my opinion much a much better quality stick and don't f*ck up nearly as much as hand-helds.
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by Keith on Saturday, 06-Jan-2007
Just ordered a Premier Supermatic(Blue) starter kit. Hope it's as easy as it looks to stuff some smokes.
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by Dano on Monday, 08-Jan-2007
My suggestion would be; to get a Premeir Hand Injector (the old blue one which is widely available, the difference is the top part is not as wide as the new one, which makes it a little easier to handle.)
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DO NOT use Premier Tubes!!! (unless you want to stop smoking)
They are hands down the worst tubes on the market. Start with something like a Zig Zag or Rizla or even a Top or Bugler.
Hand injectors that I know will turn you off are the Top and Rizla. The Top injector has a hard to release clasp when you close it and the Rizla injector a little to bulky for the hand.
I've used the Premier hand injector for a decade and love it. So I guess you could say i've been looking for the best method to make a cig for over ten years and ultimately i've found the Premier hand injector the best way to go. I've used them all and that's just my opinion.
Stay Frosty!
Dano
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by the living dead on Monday, 08-Jan-2007
"the Rizla injector a little to bulky for the hand"
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WHAT?
not your enemy but you dissed the wrong hand-held.
First of all, you need more than a wrench to work on your table-top machines, but once you discover that your making cigarettes instead of "spotty tubes which burn erradically" due to a failure of tightness and the (non) ablilty to achieve same with a plastic injector, you'll LOVE the maintenance
and in fairness, I gather the Premier HH has a large nozzle that will NOT accommodate Riz cig size
mc
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by mike c on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2007
dear Dano
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I decided to further explain......
if you think I do not have respect for your use of hand-held injectors, you'd be wrong!! I only recently gave in and got a machine. I love Rizla products and personally think their logo should override Premier, etc. ...anyway, I strain my brain trying to discern which Rizla HH seems not to fit in your hand....the Blue one can't be it?? the Red cig size could be it?? is that it?? OR could it be the Rizla De Luxe that is set in a white plastic base??? (red colored injector) if it is would you PLEASE sell it to me if it's in good shape and the Rizla logo isn't rubbed off? sorry to hear of your bad Supermatic experience, if I were to purchase one today I would tell the seller "up front" that there are good ones and not-so-good ones brand new, and to be prepared for a return. *****have you tried a 100mm injector?? these fill a cigarette all the way to the tip and then some...
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by Dano on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2007
Yo Mike!
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You got me all wrong! I believe that every Newbie to MYO should start with a Big Machine. I also believe that every Newbie will by and large shake that machine apart.
I HATE Premier products. Their Tubes are absolute garbage no matter what price they sell for. I see people here that say they like them and I have to think they are victums of West Virgina Coal Mine Smog. The Only Reason To Use A Premier Tube is if You Are Absolutely Broke!!
But I will say this, their hand held injector is spot on.
Depending on where you are it's between $5 and $10 bucks. It will last forever and makes perfect smokes.
Don't bother with the Rizla, Top or other hand helds, they are all inferior and frustrating for a number of reasons. (For instance the Top hand held the 'interior guide' isn't attached to the frame of the machine, it wobbles and breaks after a short time) The Rizla machine is just really cumbersome with it's camel back.
Ultimately I don't care what machine anyone uses. I do like to think that my input will help newbies over any fears they have to moving to myo. Everybody has there own opinions and that's a good thing, but when people start saying 'You Gotta Have A Big Machine' to make a cig.. .that's just a bunch of nonsence that has no basis in truth and doesn't serve this community well.
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by mike c on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2007
Dano!!!! NO, I didn't get you all wrong!!! I wasn't speaking of Premiere tubes at all or any tubes in my post (although they should be quality upgraded and marketed as a brand of Rizla) JMHO,,,anyway,:) I want to know whic Rizla HH doesn't soot your fancy?? (com onn com on...DO TELL!!!)
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mc
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by Scott johnson on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2007
Ok... I don't see what you mean by WV coal mine smog. I'm in WV.
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as far as newbies: I was one, about 8 months ago, I started with a zig zag handheld. As hard as I tried, I could not get consistent injections. I also have a Rizla Cig-size injector, same thing. I ordered a Premier Excel and used that for several months. It did a much better job, but it's picky about the moisture content of the tobacco I use. Then I found an old supermatic on ebay. this is an original burgundy/maroon machine. As far as I can tell, it is all original. I use it daily even though the spoon is wore down.
It makes perfect smokes every time.
Premier Tubes: they are ok. I use them between large tube orders.
As far as big machines, I'd rather use my supermatic than anything else. It just makes better sticks. even with more moist tobaccos.
- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by mike c on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2007
hope this topic fits ok....I have been trough enough hand-helds to speak of them. I always wondered and was a little jealous by you guys mentioning extinguising a smoke half-way finished, having stated you'd got enough...well, now that I am a card carrying member of the club....I see what you mean,,,,I just put one out half-way.....it's in the tightness, quality of machine pack. Ever notice that a well packed smoke sometimes comes out "ovoid" in shape (on the paper part)?? I guess this is due to the plug shape...smokes just fine
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- Re: Newbie questions
- Posted by mike p on Sunday, 25-Mar-2007
i know this post is late to the the guy who hates premier tubes why would you want to insult people who likes premier papers you are an ass
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- our "craft"
- Posted by mike c on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2007
called a local shop yesterday to see how the taxes affected MYO "loose tobacco" in my state yesterday...the tax on packs went up a dollar.. it didn't go up...so I am happily enjoying the $1 savings per 20 sticks....
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as I now sit amongst a mountain of tobacco "mess", engaged in stuffing "ritual" which to me is fun as hell, I just love thinking that no matter how many new people "join us", there are so many others that will NEVER be willing to do the work, engage in the "art form" (for lack of another term). My friend is an example...he will NEVER make his own...too much effort, he will just pay $50.00 a carton for his NAS now. We are elite.
- Re: our "craft"
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2007
I dunno about "elite," but most certainly we know a good thing when we see it. I've always marveled over people who willing choice the inferior (if not just-plain mediocre) over other alternatives--and be willing to pay way too much for it to boot! But que sera sera, eh? For every person in a hybrid sipping petrol at the pump there's a HummVee with one person in it burning through a gallon every five or six miles. Go figure.
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For still less than the pre-sales tax price I can get a bland, boring pack of pre-made Marlboro reds in the Sunshine State (which are going for around $3.75/pk before sales tax, another 7%), I ordered 10 50 gram pouches of Golden Virgina brand from a shop in the UK which was $92.00 after the terrible exchange rate (the dollar really sucks these days), stuffed a pack's worth into Zig-Zag Light tubes (spending approximately 5 minutes) and puffed like a contended chimney. Hot damn!
God Almighty...even at spending almost $83/pound for tobacco, I can still make my own smokes cheaper than top-tier premades. Sheesh....and there hasn't been a revolution here yet? Sounds like the rest of the country is getting quite the free ride from smokers, with far less representation....
- Re: our "craft"
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2007
"Sounds like the rest of the country is getting quite the free ride from smokers, with far less representation...." S/B
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"Sounds like the rest of the country is getting quite the free ride from smokers, who make do with far less representation...."
...at least if you measure representation by the amount of favourable legislation smokers get compared to non-smokers. All that fine Golden Virginia baccy is interferring with the synapses' again. :-)
- Re: our "craft"
- Posted by Mike T. on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2007
I never understood why American Spirit smokers pay $6.00 per pack, when the same tobacco is available for a fraction of a price.
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- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by 6-3/4" spoon travel before release on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2006
a reminder that it's still the holiday, and was thinking how the people here are not just "sheeple smokers", rather "craftsmen" and "craftswomen" in a guild. Is 41 too old to be hollering "I want T-shirts"?? and more than one kind at that??? funny I have been here long enough to miss some of the "gone quiet" ones....I wonder how Anne is doing on her Excel??? anyway, glad to get here in time to see developments to the list, etc
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*keep happy as you can*
mike c
- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by 2-3/4" on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2006
2-3/4" oh god
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carry on
- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Friday, 29-Dec-2006
No, 41 isn't too old to be asking for T-Shirts with the site's address and whatever name Dave wants on them! I'm soon to be 57, and I'd dam sure wear one (with a front pocket) when I went to the local tobacco shops. Why not? That's up to Dave to decide though--since it is his site! Mike
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- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by scott johnson on Friday, 29-Dec-2006
maybe dave could do something thru cafepress dot com. I'd be game for one.
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- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by Dave L on Sunday, 31-Dec-2006
I wouldn't know where to start design-wise. With CafePress it looks like anyone could create/sell SYO T-shirts... RBA should make some with just a picture of a Supermatic on them.
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- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by mike c on Sunday, 31-Dec-2006
"RBA should make some with just a picture of a Supermatic on them."
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actually Dave, you do know where to start...I SWEAR TO GOD, the stand alone Supermatic was my first vision.....a guy had a turntable shirt like that which was beauty to my eyes, that's how I got the idea....I have known a bunch of shirt-makers over the years, but it seems the circus left town.....find a decent quality manufacturer and put a Supermatic on it, like one modified with your hopper, for example, and I will find the money as I am sure others will too!!!! BTW, I love my charcoal crank-arm on the Ultimatic, and since I am currently opting for "stock" in my collection until expansion, It goes together with the now famous "Havoc Method"...
mike c
- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by mike 1 more c on Sunday, 31-Dec-2006
*snip* "RBA should make some with just a picture of a Supermatic on them." *snip*
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but I missed the MOST important part, and that is having the SYO/Dalrun web address on the shirt...doesn't have to be blatant, but must be included!! maybe on the back?? currently I am seeing your mod Supermatic with tobacco in the tray, a box of good tubes in shot, possibly a tube on the machine and an open flip-top pack brimming with finished product.....this cigarette tax problem is no joke and you are the man behind the machines when you break it down, this is significant and very important for many people to have success, etc.
- Re: Forum,...Dalrun "SYO" T-shirts
- Posted by mike c on Monday, 01-Jan-2007
also envisioning a "stencil" type "drawing" of a Supermatic, only because I recall that any shirts I ever had with a photographic image on them didn't hold up well....maybe techniques have improved, etc. good morning and BTW, when I was "spoof bragging" on my HU crank-arm...what I really meant was no label to remove was nice for the "Havoc" method.
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also, I realize funds are also required for such a venture..
- Pocket Snuffers?
- Posted by mike c on Sunday, 10-Dec-2006
has anyone heard of such a thing?? I do a lot of public transport, and often have to quickly put out a stick....a couple years ago my girlfriend gave me one she made out of metal parts from the hardware store and it worked great, although it was just a tad bit heavy and I have since lost all the parts.
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- Re: Pocket Snuffers?
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Sunday, 10-Dec-2006
I've seen 'em at a few smoke shops around...basically a thin metal tube with a cap. Drop in the smoke, close it and it extinguishes itself after a few seconds. Handy for just the sort of situations you describe...just lit up a smoke then gotta stub it out after a puff or two....
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- Re: Pocket Snuffers?
- Posted by Howard C on Sunday, 10-Dec-2006
Mike maybe you could look at these,-- ASH0508 Cigarette Snuffer, Available in Different Colors. They're at D&Rs web site, [link] I've used these or something similar for many years in ashtrays. The ashtray has a solid bottom but your pockets won't! I would suggest that if you happen to know somebody that either does sport shooting or field hunting that he may have an expended metal pistol or rifle brass cartridge or 2 to give you (with bottoms). The cones that I have for ashtray stuffers are 3/4" top to bottom and the diameter of the hole is about 3/8" ( or a little larger as the nicotine/tar will build up over time and need to be reamed out to resize for MYO cigarettes. A quicker fix might be anything hollow to fit having a myo stuffed into it for a very short period of time I would say no more then 15 seconds (test this out though, With a small normal ash ( 1/8'-3/16") on the burning cigarette and placed in one of the cones and set on a wood table top wouldn't even scorch the table)A short piece of 1/2 inch copper pipe/tubing 1 inch long with a 1/2 inch copper cap on one end. File both ends of the one inch long at an angle to eliminate sharp edges and facilitate putting the cap on one end also ream the pipe on both ends to eliminate sharp areas and to keep the original size inside. Either of these two solutions should solve your problem, heck you could even take a larger sized ballpoint pen apart cut it to the length you want and shove some putty or modelers clay in one end a half inch or so where the ink writing point goes, throw the inkfilled insert away then put some liquid glue around the pushbutton on top let it set up and if this works you'll have your own Secret Agent 99 cig-stuffer and carrying case. If this doesn't work or burns a hole in your pocket (or worse) you received all this info from a guy named ET. This message self destructs in one hour.
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Howard alias Don Adams
Many years ago I broke or lost one of my stuffer cones,so my wife suggested a large bead from a craft store, this was when mac-a-rae hangings were popular. I had it in a guest ashtray but the idiots that I had for guests couldn't quite grasp the idea of putting a cigarette in a bead would put out the burning coal end, no, they had to smash it out and practicly grind out with the heel of their shoe
- Re: Pocket Snuffers?
- Posted by Dano on Monday, 08-Jan-2007
The cones work great! I didn't get mine from D&R but they look the same. Put a cig in and BAM! It's out! Automatic! :)
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They are a worthy cheap investment that actually work.
Stay Frosty!
Dano
- inject your own
- Posted by anonymous on Friday, 01-Dec-2006
"IYO"
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- History of MYO home injection
- Posted by mike c on Monday, 27-Nov-2006
I've been thinking....in MHO it is important to know the history of home "stuffing". I can find nothing about it other than the possible first injection machine called the Laredo, from 1972, mentioned in RYO mag. In another thread, it is asked why MYO tubes are larger diameter then homemade.
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This, to me, is important to know. I also was thinking that MYO tobacco doesn't seem to keep fresh after stuffing, whereas premades stay the same (probably because of the propylene glycol, F,D&C black black, and experimental substance XJ-9) and I was also wondering why Top and Bugler, etc., don't offer already made smokes. (is it because they would go stale?) Who made the first handheld injector?? I wonder if Doug or whatever his name at RYO knows this?? I emailed him once with no reply..maybe he reads this forum! anyway, can some intelligent soul please hammer out this info??
mike c
- Re: History of MYO home injection
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Monday, 27-Nov-2006
I'm not sure what you mean when you say that MYO smokes don't keep fresh after stuffing compared to premades.... Do you mean they seem to dry out differently? Lose flavour? I've not really had that problem. In fact, I was out in my garage a couple days back and found a 6 week old stick of Danish Export (I've been out of that particular blend for that long) and I could instantly tell, by firing it up, exactly what it was. While it burned way faster than normal as it was quiet dry, the flavour was almost totally intact.
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I recall back in the day when I'd find an old Marlboro that had been lying around for a couple of weeks it would taste extremely stale, acrid and almost unsmokable; there was no question about it when you fired up a stale pre-made; you *knew* that bad boy was stale! :-)
As far as Top and Bugler, I would imagine it has to do with economics...they are likely happy to keep the business model for those two products exactly as is since it is far cheaper to package loose tobacco than it is to actually make cigarettes...and that difference would have to be translated into a price increase; they would, in effect, be competing against themselves. Zig-Zag has done this, but I can't tell you anything about their pre-mades vs. their loose product since I've never really enjoyed their tobacco (love their tubes, however).
- Re: History of MYO home injection
- Posted by mike c on Monday, 27-Nov-2006
hello Larry...
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Regarding my smokes drying out...I was going to post about that, but didn't want to overkill the board....I have discovered that when I make up several packs, and fill my cig boxes and plastic cases, that they seem fine for several days, but then all of a sudden they go dry and taste terrible!! I am imagining that my cheap tobacco is part of the problem?? I just found a picture of Dave L's smokes in a jar, so I thought I'd try that!!
as for Marlboro...reds were my brand for 28-29 years and I guess they are so full of "stuff" I just never noticed a bad one!! I have however, decided recently, that Phillip Morris MUST DIE. They never have a deal on the red's, but frequently offer deals on mediums and blend # 27's. I will NEVER go back. I wish I had kept with MYO after starting in 2002,,,had I seen this site, I would have stayed. In order that I don't do another post just this minute...I just saw a post elsewhere about Rhode Island having a paper tax, and boxes of tubes would cost $22.00 a box there if anyone was willing to carry them. This is getting interesting...we must find a way to protect this "hobby"
mike c
- Re: History of MYO home injection
- Posted by Tim Aydt on Thursday, 30-Nov-2006
Since the buyout of CTC, this info seems to have disappeared of the web and I am writing this from memory, so feel free to correct anything that I get wrong.
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The Premier Supermatic has it's origins in France. in the twenties or early thirties Arnold Kastner, or possibly his father, had an import business and one of the things they imported was a cigarette machine. Mr. Kastner was an inventive sort of guy and came up with some improvements to this cigarette machine. So he bought the rights to manufacture the machine in the US and redesigned it. The Supermatic was born.
Of it's origins in France, I don't know anything, but I can make some educated guesses. I'd say it's design pre-dates The Great War, WWI, and the demand for it in the US arose from our military having used them overseas.
The basic design has remained relatively unchanged since the Depression. I have a Great-Uncle, who is turning 100 this year, and he had a Supermatic in the Forties. He also told me that I was throwing the best part away when I was picking out stems one day. LOL
Again, a disclaimer. Most of this info is from the old CTC website which I read when I first got into SYO, three years ago. Some of it comes from when Top introduced their machine, I was curious about patent infringement and I found out how old, and expired, the patents on the Supermatic are.
Here's a [url=[link]]link to one of the patents[/url].
- Mail Order
- Posted by Matt on Friday, 17-Nov-2006
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Why is it that I can't order liquor in my state (among many others) yet I can order all sorts of mind-bending pharmaceuticals that could be abused for fun & profit.
Thanks a lot you shitty lawmakers.
- Regrets...I've Had a Few
- Posted by Matt on Monday, 30-Oct-2006
20 to be exact. I forgot my smokes while out today and bought a $3.00 pack of Camels. Ugh! I don't remember Camels being this nasty or having perforated filter paper. Any newcomers crossing over to SYO looking for a Camel substitute would be well advised to root through their nearest paper shredder and add a handful of lawn clippings plus any unidentified foreign matter you can find. If you really want a good turkish blend I strongly recommend trying D&R's Ramback Gold. This is just the kind of experience I needed to remind me why I've been making my own for the last 8 years.
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- How much of a supply do you usually purchase?
- Posted by MAJ on Friday, 08-Sep-2006
I buy from D&R and usually buy muiltple months worth at a time to save in shipping charges. I was just wondering how much of a supply do you usually order? Do you make orders that last you 1 month, 2 months, longer?
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- Re: How much of a supply do you usually purchase?
- Posted by Kent C on Friday, 08-Sep-2006
I purchase a 50 box case of tubes and 10 - 14oz bags from D&R. Next shipment because of my basic 4-2 or 4-1-1 mix, I'll likely get 20 Roland lights to 10 Wingate lights, and pick up the McC menthol somewhere else.
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- Re: How much of a supply do you usually purchase?
- Posted by Kev on Sunday, 10-Sep-2006
I buy large refill kits from the same source. Enough to last 2 months or a little longer. Even before using D&R I bought 2-3 months worth since it was usually a little cheaper in shipping. Plus who likes to constantly order every few weeks?
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- Re: How much of a supply do you usually purchase?
- Posted by MAJ on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2006
I tend to order refill kits also. It is because I like to create my own blend so I order different tobacco blends at the same time. Even though I might order 14 cartons worth, it is a small savings to order small refill kits instead of a small case of 14 boxes of tubes when I order from D&R. It also allows me to experiment with different tubes.
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