Peter Stokkebye
Quality tobaccos from Denmark. These are every bit as good as Peter Stokkebye's higher priced Bali brand.
- Amsterdam Shag - Fire-cured Kentucky and Virginia (halfzware)
- Danish Export - Virginia's
- London Export - Virginia's (full bodied/rich)
- Norwegian Shag - Virginia, Burly and Oriental
- Stockholm Blend - Virginia "with a touch of Dark-Fires"*
- Turkish Export - Turkish Samsun and Virginia
Typical Stokkebye high moisture fine/extra fine cut shags that are a bit of a PITA. Available in 300gr/10.6oz and 100gr/3.5oz cans. Low ~$23LB
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- Re: Peter Stokkebye
- Posted by Chris G. on Thursday, 07-Feb-2008
25 year smoker but a newbie to SYO- 3 months now. Gambler, Stokley's #2, Top, Bugler, and Drum are available locally. Not very impressed with any of them. Drum and Bugler were , imo, better. But today I got a LBSS order in. I am now enjoying smoking more than ever!
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Peter Stokkebye's Turkish Export is wonderful, smooth, tasty, and very easy to stuff, even with my slide Premier. I think I even caught a bit of a buzz from the first cig. Worth every penny. Absolutely beautiful. But I may be biased as my Great Grandfather grew tobacco in Bulgaria near the Black Sea coast. Actually, I think I now understand why he did what he did.
- PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by lipps1948 on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
Can someone tell me what this silk cut means, I'm looking for a tobacco cut similar to Bali Shag Halfzware, which works wonders in my Quick Roller.
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PETER STOKKEBYE Tobacco - LONDON EXPORT CAN 10.6oz
A blend of full bodied, rich Virginia tobaccos. SILK CUT Full flavor English-style taste. Medium strength.
Kindest regards, Pete- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by Wazmo Nairz on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
Good question...when I lived in England I'd buy a pack of Silk Cut brand cigarettes from time to time. I only ever heard that term applied to loose tobacco once when I was in Amsterdam; the tobacconist said that it meant any tobacco which was cut in very long, extremely thin strips. If that's true, it's certainly a correct application of the term when it comes to London Export. It's cut in extremely thin "strings;" so thin, in fact, that it will dry and turn very brittle extremely quick.
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I always hand roll LE becuase of that; drying it out to inject will result in lots of snuff-like powder if you're not careful.- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
I agree the LE is a very-fine/silk cut. I don't know if the cuts have changed since they wrote the descriptions but the Danish and Norwegian are also very-fine cuts. All three turn to dust when dried out too much. I stuff all three but dry them out only to point that stuffing them isn't a total PITA (no less than 68% RH). There's a pretty fine line and I wouldn't recommend them to someone new to stuffing.
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- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
Dave's right...either start off by drying just enough to stuff all at once (remember, what you're drying to stuff will keep on getting drier and more brittle while you're stuffing, so keep an eye on it) or hand roll it.
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In either case, it's good stuff but I've never tried Bali Shag halfzware, so I can't tell you whether it's similar or not taste-wise.- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by Kizer Sosa on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
I'll third that. I stuff the Norwegian right out of the can because of this... it's good stuff, but you've got to work fast once the air hits it. Work even faster if you're blending it with anything.
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After going through a number of cans of the Norwegian, I think it's safe to say that at least 10% (and probably more) of the contents goes into the trash can because it crumbles into powder during the stuffing process.
This weekend, I'm going to look into a legit airtight container/humidor and some humidifier buttons.
But I can see that even a proper RH won't be a total cure for that extra fine cut.
Here's a question: What if I took the time and effort to stuff five or six packs worth at once, then kept those cigs in a humidity controlled environment until I needed them?
Would that provide fresh cigs for a week at a time, or would the stuffed tobacco still dry out and get stale regardless of the humidity? How much does the tube affect humidity levels?
Thanks...- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
Sometimes I'll go on a tear and stuff 7 or 8 packs worth of smokes if I'm bored...I keep 'em at 60% RH in a used Adorini Pisa humidor sitting on my coffee table. They seem quite fine even after a few weeks. Here's an interesting link with storage temp/humidity guidelines: [link]
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- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
That 60% s/b 65%. Sorry for the typo.
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- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
Pete, try McClintock Full Flavor. It's made by P. Stokkebye, and is great in my Quick Roller. From what I gather after reading everyone's comments, you'll have to dry P.S Export Brands, but I haven't tried any of those yet; so can't comment. Mike
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- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Thursday, 08-Feb-2007
Pete, just a thought--have you tried 3 Sails yet? It's very similar to Bali Shag Red, but then it's different. Just a thought. Capt. Mike
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- Posted by lipps1948 on Friday, 09-Feb-2007
Thanks Cap,
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And everybody else for the response, I have used P.S. Turkish, taste good, but reading on here everyone gives thumbs up to the London Export. Gonna order some and try it out, I'm presently using the McClintock.
Kindest regards, Pete
- Re: PETER STOKKEBYE - LONDON EXPORT
- Posted by mark on Thursday, 27-Oct-2011
good call Capt. i just tried 3 sails and really like it. I've mixed a little stokkebye burley and it gives it a slightly different flavor.
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Have u ever tried adding burley for nicotene hit?
- Norwegian Shag
- Posted by Major Havoc on Tuesday, 26-Dec-2006
I notice there's minimal reports on this one, so I thought I'd kick in...
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PS advertises this as an "American" blend. I will certainly agree! I like it a lot, I think this will be my regular "go to" tobacco.
FWIW, I find it tastes and smokes best in El Rey light tubes. But I've also used Premier Lights, Silver Tip lights and Windsail FFs, all with great results.
It's really smooth and "neutral", about as close to a pre-made that I've run into. It doesn't have any characteristics that put it over the edge like some other brands/types, in terms of harshness or flavor.
In other words, you don't have to work to get used to it, or try to justify its bad points in order to enjoy it.
As usual, it arrives nicely moist, typical for the PS tobaccos. The problem to look out for is the extra-fine cut. Lucky for me I didn't dump the whole can out to dry a bit like I usually do, I would've trashed the whole can.
Instead, for my initial taste test, I pulled out about ten sticks worth and gave it the usual 15 minutes on the counter. What a mistake! Because of the extra fine cut, the 15 minutes was all it took to turn the majority of it into unstuffable shake. It really came apart with even light handling.
So I decided to eliminate the drying. I just pull out what I need and stuff it immediately, and things are beautiful. There's still a little shake that results, but it's manageable... a ton less than drying it out and not enough of a loss to get bummed about.
Maybe the extra fine cut is a good thing because it contributes to it's smokability? I dunno, I guess there's gotta be an advantage/purpose in it somewhere.
What I think I'll do from now on is find a more airtight container than the can it comes in and transfer it in order to keep in as much moisture in it as possible. Might have to experiment with some moisture/humidity management as well.
I've also had some very tasty results blending this about 2:1 with the PS Turkish. The D&R Periques in the same ratio also blend incredibly well with this stuff. But again, if you're going to do this, I recommend very gentle blending so you don't sacrifice too much of the Norwegian to the Shake Gods.
Final verdict: Two thumbs up!
- Re: Norwegian Shag
- Posted by Jason on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2012
The more moisture in the tobacco, the smoother the smoke. I roll my own by hand, so I don't really have a problem with any of it drying up. Buttons work great if you carry a pouch, but I would still suggest only carrying what you need for the day.
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- Peter Stokkebye Danish Export London Export
- Posted by allfluecured on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2006
I have to say my experience with both are not positive. I tried Bali Shag Golden before and all of them have very strong flavoring. The tobacco used appears to be average grade and the smoke is not very clean.
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I don't care much about oriental's aroma or burley. My ideal tobacco is simply high grade 100% flue-cured, and they are awesome just the way they are - no flavorings needed. The word blending does not really interest me.
Comparably, they are not as good as pre-made Export 'A' cigarette.
- Re: Peter Stokkebye Danish Export London Export
- Posted by Kerry on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2006
I agree that Stokkebye's and the Bali line seem to depend more on added flavoring than the actual tobacco.
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Just curious, what tobacco brand do you smoke/recommend? Other than pre-mades that is.
- Norwegian shag
- Posted by scott johnson on Friday, 15-Sep-2006
I just got a sample of this. I stuffed some in a Vera Cruz Nocturne after a little drying. I thought it had great flavor. perfect strength. not sure if i would smoke it everyday, but definitely something i will keep around.
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- Re: Stokkebye Stockholm Blend
- Posted by Dan the littledog on Saturday, 17-Dec-2005
This is mostly Virginia with a smidgeon of Dark Fired Kentucky. Not enough Kentucky to make it a halfzware but it does balance out the VA which is quite strong. For those used to mild/medium VA or VA/burley blend this is very different both in nicotine and flavor. Most VA blends have a mild burley added which is not the same as this. If you wish to try something different-much stronger-this would be a good place to start.
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- Posted by jazzbo on Thursday, 29-Dec-2005
I'd be interested in such information as well, but Doug at RYO Mag has an interesting take: http://www.ryomagazine.com/april2001/index.htm
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I can peronally attest to the fact that I smoke far less now than when I was burning pre-made smokes, despite the fact I'm making them for about $1.10 a pack vs. $3.50 and up for pre-mades. In fact I've gone from two packs a day of Marlboro Light 100s to about 3/4 to one pack a day of MYO light king-size smokes. Part of it certainly has to do with the flavor. On the rare occasions I'll put one of those nasty pre-mades to my lips, I can tell an immediate difference; almost any MYO blend has far greater flavor than any pre-made around these days.
In any event, it's time to Google around and see what can be found....
- Re: Stockholm Blend
- Posted by Jo on Friday, 17-Feb-2006
I have looked for the perfect syo cigarette for about a month. I had decided the tube for me is the ElRey full flavor. Every tobacco seemed to taste better with them. I just hope the company changing from Germany to Canada doesn't change the tubes. Then I found this Stockholm Blend of tobacco from American Thrust. I didn't realize it was by Peter Stokkebye until I started trying to find it online.
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I have 4 other samples of Stokkebye tobaccos to try. They will have to beat the Stockholm blend, which it seems like it would be impossible to do.
I am happy! I like the Supermatic, the ElRey tubes and the Stockholm Blend and have a hopper on the way. I can't believe the mess I make stuffing my own, so am hoping Dave's hopper will take care of that.
- London Export
- Posted by andrew on Friday, 20-Jan-2006
Extrememly mellow and mild but outstanding flavor for a RYO. The color is dark because it is slightly aged tobacco but the taste is very light. I enjoy smoking these alot. It is slightly difficult to stuff though. Alot better than Danish Export, imo.
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- Posted by RT on Thursday, 02-Mar-2006
Yes Andrew, truley a mellow & mild tobacco but newbies beware! does pack a punch! without any harshness at all and also being a cigar smoker--- NON SNOB CIGAR SMOKER (__@_____{{{ that is, I appreciate the flavor that the extra aging brings out or as the can says "...allowed to reach full maturity to guarantee a smooth, seductive taste".
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Don't let me scare anyone! London Export does not taste LIKE a cigar but you can trace the true mellow flavor of real well cared & cured tobacco unlike any other MYO/RYO I've tasted in my seven years of cranking out my own cigarettes with a big blue but still also enjoy sitting on the back porch & watch the clouds go by with a Arturo Fuente, or any good cigar.
I had no problem with stuffing this treat into a silver tip silver airstream tube right out of the can & as all Peter Stockkebye products was a little moist but better than to dry as I've opened other products from Stockkebye over five years from the production date with no problem. ENJOY! (__@_____{{{
- Re: London Export
- Posted by jazzbo on Thursday, 02-Mar-2006
Man, nothing I love more than a nice London Export fag...but not in a tube. I prefer it fairly moist, so I bust out a Rayo filter plug, my trusty hand-roller and a single leaf of Rizla silvers. Mm-Mm-Good!
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- The source of Danish Export flavor?
- Posted by V.B. on Friday, 02-Dec-2005
Does anyone know what kind of "topping" gives Danish Export its distinct flavor/aroma, as compared to other "pure" virginia blends, such as D&R Windsail and Three Sails, or Bali Red and McClintock Virginia?
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I love DE, but I just cannot "place" its alluring flavor...- Re: The source of Danish Export flavor?
- Posted by R Morris on Sunday, 04-Dec-2005
There was a source file (ie=link) on this web page I think that gave all the toppings that PS put in their tobacco. If I remember right it was a long one. Lot of additives. Still using a can of amsterdam shag 1 year after the top has been opened=still have to let it dry=still moist. Try a google search= 'stokkebye tobacco topping additives' then add (pdf)tinned= good reading=stokkebye tinned reaches aging 1 year after tinning and countines to mature. This was on a old pipe digest as the current product is in a cardboardbox=cig. tobacco. I have the plastic lid on mine at this time and just='put it in a corner' and it is still 'wet'=lot of additives IMO. The flavor=could be anything='juice from hot dog package mixed with saltpewter with fetus dead child(I AM A Bush SUPPORTER=they have to be dead,otherwise IMO=who cares?) with MY TEXAS CHILI'etc=nobody will give topping recipe out. Its like trying to find 'the best charcoal bluing recipe'=unless you know somebody (ie=bone char=IMO) it will be very hard. Moderator and/or list owner=feel free to delete this message=just venting and got way off topic.
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- Re: The source of Danish Export flavor?
- Posted by andrew on Friday, 09-Dec-2005
The use a slight "dutch" flavor that Dutch blends always tend have but in different amounts. I cant say im a big fan of this style and want to try London Export next. But Danish Export is very mild, milder than Windsail Platinum who can still leave u with a scratchy throat the next morning. Though im never a fan of messing with the flavor of Virginia tobaccos which tastes fine by itself.
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- Danish Export
- Posted by V.B. on Sunday, 02-Oct-2005
Just tried Danish Export (in FF Premier tube) as a future replacement candidate for the discontinued McClintock Virginia and found it a breathtakingly sophisticated tobacco - just a tiny bit milder on intake than McClintock, but with silkier and even more subtle flavor/aroma on exhale and in ambient smoke. The moisture out of the can is indeed very high, but a smaller pinch into my Supermatic still tubed it OK, with some tapping required to settle the tobacco all the way down to the filter line.
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Interestingly, within a couple of puffs of Danish Export my mind drifted to the gustatory memory of my first English cigarette - Rothmans - tried in 1975 when a friend's father brought some from his trip abroad. I wonder if English cigarettes in the past were nearly as good as this, but memory is certaily an unreliable guide (at least for me. RYO Magazine keeps referring to much better tasting pre-70s american brands, but I wonder how accurate such 30+ year old memories actually are).- Re: Danish Export
- Posted by Jazzbo on Saturday, 13-May-2006
I just picked up a tin of Danish Export today...after dumping it all out to breath for awhile, a injected a Zig-Zag Light and fired up. An extremely mild smoke, with an interesting aftertaste that I can't quite put my finger on. Also seems to have a touch higher nicotine content than the London Export--but I may need to append this later...I had found a pouch of Gauloises about three days ago and my nicotine levels may be higher than normal from that ;-)
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In any event, it is a mild yet complex smoke. I'm not sure if it'll replace London Export as my favorite PS Virgina (I doubt it), but it will, from my limited exposure today, become a regular treat.- Re: Danish Export
- Posted by Jazzbo on Sunday, 14-May-2006
OK...the Gauloises is out of my system finally. I can tell that the Danish Export doesn't seem to have a greater nicotine content than the London Export after all. I stand by the rest of the review, however. It is a mild, semi-sweet blend with a bit of a spicy note on the back of the tongue. Nothing harsh, noting shocking, just a hint, actually. Still, in my mind, not as tasty as the London Export...however, still a Mighty Fine Smoke and one I'll buy again when I feel the mood for something close to the Drum Milde I used to smoke when I lived in the UK.
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- Posted by Dave L on Monday, 15-May-2006
The Danish is the mildest, and lightest on the nicotine, of all the Peter Stokkebye tobaccos. Coming from ultra-lights it was my main smoke for a long time. McClintock Virginia, Bali Red, etc. had a bit too much punch for me.
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I don't know what's going on with the London because I've gotten two cans that were quite different in taste. This last can is not to my taste, its got a definite medicinal-like (others have called it eucalyptus) spicy halfzware smell/taste. The first can was incredibly smooth, slightly heavy, with a slight vinegary smell (very much like Bali Smooth Virginia was). I'd say both were/are noticeably stronger and higher in nicotine than the Danish. More often than not I cut it 50/50 with the Danish.- Re: Danish Export
- Posted by Jazzbo on Monday, 15-May-2006
Interesting. I just picked up another can of LE today. It has been sitting around the store awhile, apparently, as it was noticably drier than any other can of PS tobacco I've ever bought (though still more moist than most other baccy's). Still had the same aroma I recall from the other 3 cans of LE I've purchased in the past year; A slightly musky, earthy aroma.
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I've always been interested in why, even apparently among top-shelf brands like PS (even D&R has sent me the occasional dud bag--they've always made it right and then some, of course) there will be drastic shift in quality on occasions, sometimes even among cans or pouches within a certain lot. Any ideas?- Re: Danish Export
- Posted by andrew on Monday, 15-May-2006
It probably depends how the tobacoo is stored. Quality control, quality of the harvested crop, etc. I have also noticed a difference between two containers of London Export, Mc Virginia and others. Its the one thing about MOY that i dont like because you never really know what your getting.
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- Posted by Jazzbo on Monday, 15-May-2006
True, but we do know it's gonna be better than the premade shite no matter what! ;-)
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- Re: Peter Stokkebye Amsterdam Shag
- Posted by einsig on Sunday, 21-Nov-2004
A staple of my for hand rolling. It can be tricky for stuffing, as many PS blends can.
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Probably THE best Halfzware available today, IMO. I love Dutch style blends and have tried them all. It has that classic Dutch Halfzware aroma and flavor, but as usual with Stokkebye this is the top echelon of quality. A very clean and defined rendering. The halfzware that all otehrs should be measured against.
Caveat: This stuff can be strong for a lot of people. Use it in context. Personally I only smoke 1-3 sticks a day when I want to wind down or just chill with a nice beverage (usually espresso), but this allows me to take a larger dose of nicotine at once. I smoke this handrolled w/o a filter and it gives a good kick to head if youa ren't careful, but nothng that isn't manageable. If I was the type of person who smoked a ton of sticks a day I wouldn't be able to handle this straight up. Beginners take it slow with this or blend it, but it is an amazing smoke nonetheless.- Re: Peter Stokkebye Amsterdam Shag
- Posted by Gomer on Sunday, 21-Oct-2007
Now that I have cut way back on my smoking, My son, while at Moody in Chicago, sent me a can of Amsterdam Shag and Danish Export to try.
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It won't work in my Fresh Choice machine, but works fine in my Crank. I use one of those clear plastic caps on top of a ketchup bottle for a perfect measure of tobacco, place it evenly into my crank and out come a perfect stick every time.
I enjoy the Amsterdam Shag like a glass of fine wine. Haven't been smoking it very long, but I like it very well so far.- Re: Peter Stokkebye Amsterdam Shag
- Posted by Gomer on Thursday, 25-Oct-2007
Forget this stuff ! I use a cigarette holder with a filter inside. This Shag tobacco is full of tar. I have to change filters after smoking only about 3 or 4 cigarettes. It tastes good, but full of tar and makes me cough a lot.
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- Re: Peter Stokkebye London export
- Posted by Kevin on Saturday, 24-Jul-2004
I wonder if someone can educate me (us) here on SYO. On the can of P.S. London export it says "...traditional English style tobacco...Virginia blend is cured gently and allowed to reach FULL MATURITY..."
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I'am wondering what this 'curing' process is along with what 'full maturity' is? Is curing the drying/air or fire curing & if tobacco is commonly aged. Before this & D&R's Three sails I had not known of 'English' or British' styles of tobacco.
The fine cut is just like the Danish export & moisture level is high as in all the Stockkebye export line & its always a little work to prepare it for tubing BUT worth the work in my book.
- Re: Flue-cured/Virginia
- Posted by Dave L on Saturday, 24-Jul-2004
Virginia and flue-cured are almost synonymous. With rare exception, flue-cured is Virginia. Some Virginia is sun or fire-cured. Flue-cured is air drying with increased airflow. Heat is used only to increase the airs ability to absorb moisture.
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Virginia needs to be picked when its ripe (yellow/turning yellow), pick the leaf to soon and it doesn't cure properly (stays green). Positive chemical changes (e.g. starch > sugar) occur in the dying leaf. Once the leaves are picked they are 'kept alive' for up to 2-1/2 days (too long and the sugars oxidize) before drying. Aging the dried tobacco for up to 2 years enhances its mellow/smooth qualities.
- Amsterdam Shag
- Posted by Dave L on Wednesday, 30-Jun-2004
Cleaner and more flavorful than Drum. Amsterdam Shag has Drums smoky quality only more so (more fire-cured Kentucky?). There's also a spiciness (good) and a hint of a perfumy taste (a borderline negative). I prefer light Virginia's but this is a nice occasional treat.
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- Posted by Raymond Morris on Friday, 04-Feb-2005
This is great stuff. It is pricey. Is there any place out there that sells it cheaper than american thrust?? I like it better than drum which is my everyday smoke.
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- Turkish Export
- Posted by Dave L on Wednesday, 30-Jun-2004
A mild, smooth and tasty smoke that's comparable to Bali Shag Turkish. At $10LB less, this is a winner. The medium-fine cut is an unusual (for PS) and pleasant surprise.
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- Posted by Tim Aydt on Saturday, 10-Jul-2004
I really wanted to like this offering from PS. I blend with Bali Shag Turkish and was hoping this would be a similar blend in a medium-fine cut, that I could replace the Bali with.
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It is a disappointment. I find that when blended in the same proportions, or even less, that my cigarettes have a distinct commercial flavor. That sort of bland staleness you find in a Marlboro. I don't think that it is comparable to the Bali Shag Turkish, which adds a smooth and, somewhat, nutty flavor my cigarettes lack without it.
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- Posted by Lereya on Monday, 20-Feb-2006
Yeah, it's pretty disappointing that the Bali Turkish is gone, because frankly, the Turkish Export doesn't cut it. I shared others' thinking - this was Bali's big daddy, so it should work. Unfortunately, I was highly disappointed. The medium cut bugs me, and the underwhelming, commercial smoke of it is reminiscent of going to the local 7-Eleven and getting a pack of Camel Turkish Golds. It's sort of ridiculous, if you ask me.
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- Re: Turkish Export
- Posted by Kevin on Tuesday, 20-Jul-2004
As a Stockkebye Danish export fan I was eagerly awaiting P.S. entry into the turkish ball field, I hate to say I was somewhat disapointed after tasting the TRUE TURKISH taste & aroma of D&R's Ramback but also can understand that for the large market that Peter Stockkebye reaches the pure turkish would be too much of a shock for the general ryo/myo'er. Like all the export series this is without a doubt GOOD tobacco with a hint of toasty turkish but not the full treatment that D&R brings us in his Ramback, there are also many varieties of Turkish so for a company with such reach I can understnd the light turkish treatment.
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- Posted by Dave L on Wednesday, 21-Jul-2004
I've noticed a lot of comments comparing various Turkish blends to D&R's Ramback. Ramback fans often mention disappointment. The expectations and comparison are unfortunate.
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Turkish is an Oriental tobacco that is grown in Turkey. Oriental tobaccos have a lot in common with Virginia tobaccos and are mostly used to provide seasoning and aromatics.
Most Turkish tobaccos (e.g. the Black Sea Samsun in Bali and PS Turkish) are quite mild and need to be blended with stronger Virginia (or Burley, a bad choice IMHO) tobaccos to provide a full flavored smoke.
Ramback is not a typical Turkish blend. My guess is that Ramback contains some of the rarer strong/dark Turkish that's more commonly grown for, and used in, hookah's.
- Re: Turkish Export
- Posted by Yavuz on Sunday, 29-Jan-2006
I used to like Bali Turkish so much that it more or less became my "daily", I found it to be the most rich and balanced of the Bali blends with a definate streak of real Turkish flavor. Unfortunately, the makers discontinued it in the U.S., and so far as I know aren't planning to return this gem to market (sob,sob, boo hoo). My tobacco store was very helpful and offered to order Stokkebye's Turkish as replacement. I had high hopes since I've generally liked other Stokkebye blends I've tried, none of them to the extent that they could be a "daily", but they have so far been distinct and flavorful blends. Not only that, but Bali's parent is Stokkebye, so I thought that the apple shouldn't fall from the tree. Unfortunately, their Turkish Export is more of a light European blend than anything else. Of the Stokkebye blends I've tried this has turned out to be the least remarkable. It's okay, but not exceptional in any way, and certainly gives little or no hint of Turkish flavor. It is a flat disappointment when compared to the flavorful Bali blend.
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However, I discovered that it makes a perfect carrier if you blend with the D&R Rambeck. Not to belabor the point, as I see that every post about Turkish tobacco mentions Rambeck, but it (Rambeck) is a delicious, genuine Turkish blend. It is definately the most pure Turkish blend I have found, and reminds me of the cigarettes made decades ago in Turkey (before blander western mass-produced cigarettes became the premium). While Turkish tobacco is aromatic it often produces thin, cool smoke, leading some to the impression that it is a light variety of tobacco. For a fuller smoke I have found that by mixing roughly equal parts of these two blends (Stokkebye Turkish and Rambeck) I get a more robust (thicker) smoke without overpowering or negatively altering the Turkish character as you might if you blended with some other type. This is not a flavor replacement for the delightful Bali Turkish blend, but as a lover of real Turkish tobacco I find this to be a wonderful smoke. If you bought can of Stokkebye Turkish Export and are disappointed, you can take comfort in knowing that while Stokkebye's export is not Turkish, it is an excellent complement to real Turkish flavor.- Re: Turkish Export
- Posted by Yavuz on Monday, 30-Jan-2006
I just wanted to make quick amendment to my entry. I tried the Stokkebye again without the Rambeck, and now can taste Turkish tobacco in it. I am not sure if this is because it has dried a little, possibly because it has "breathed" since opening the can, or it may even be that the can I got was not mixed extremely well so the Turkish wasn't in the bit I smoked without any admixing from top of the can. What is certain is that my earlier saying that Stokkebye had "little or no hint of Turkish flavor" is wrong. It doesn't taste strongly of Turkish tobacco, and I will continue to mix more Turkish in, but it is definately there. Sorry to have spoken prematurely.
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- Danish Export
- Posted by Dave L on Friday, 21-May-2004
I was hesitant to try this. Its only available in 10oz. cans and the moist very-fine cut shag isn't SYO friendly (its OK once its loosened up and dried out quite a bit). After reading the reviews below I decided to give it a shot. I'm glad I did.
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This is a tasty 100% Virginia blend that is clean, sweet, smooth, and mild. I don't know where the name comes from but Danish != Dutch. This is a golden Virginia shag that is milder than McClintock Virginia and Bali Golden Shag (Virginia/Oriental blends). In many respects Danish Export is more similar to Bali Turkish (Virginia/Turkish).- Re: Danish Export
- Posted by Dave L on Saturday, 22-May-2004
An interesting addendum about Danish Export from cascadecigar.com "This tobacco is the perfect replacement for Canada's "Export A" cigarette tobacco."...Personally I don't think its an apt comparison, the Danish Export is sweeter and lacks the spicy qualities of Export A.
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- Re: Danish Export
- Posted by Kev on Sunday, 18-Jul-2004
I recently picked up some to blend with my base. I really like it and it's much milder than the Bali's I've been trying lately. I'll agree that it's very moist and must be loosened/dried out before stuffing.
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- Peter Stockkebye 'export' line
- Posted by Bob on Thursday, 02-Oct-2003
Any fans of Peter Stockkebye's Danish or Turkish export out there? There are five premium blends in this line but the two I mention are my favorites in this group-They are both very mild & I always have a can of the Danish not to far away! The Danish Export require some drying & UNshaging but well worth it! FIVE STARS in my book at a five star price but WELL WORTH THE SMOOTH MILD TASTE of these blends.
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The Danish does not remind of Jester or Drum it is really a very mild very tasty. read more about it at- http://www.peterstokkebye.com/- Re: Peter Stockkebye 'export' line
- Posted by Toby on Friday, 14-Nov-2003
I like the Danish, but the Amsterdam Shag is my favorite. It's a bit strong because it's halfzware, but it's lighter and smoother than Bali Halfzware. It stuffs just fine in a premium tabletop machine, just not in the cheap handheld ones. I'm not too fond of the Norwegian Shag, but the Stockholm Blend is alright - almost as light at the Danish Export.
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- Re: Peter Stockkebye 'export' line
- Posted by Tim Mc. on Wednesday, 04-Feb-2004
Hey Gents, glad to have found this site. Peter Stokkebye's signature brands are amongst my favorites for everyday tabletop machine make. Personally I don't see how one beats the value for the money (300 gram tins for just about $20?!). I find the Turkish to be just too light... even for an everyday blend component, or as a flavorful filler. Its beautiful tobbaco but not for me. I don't like to change tubes too much and I use light tubes as I do, admittedly tend towards heavier brands.
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His Danish is a fantastic blending component for me though. I love the mild flavors and overall easy to work with cut and moisture level. Good stuff! My favorite out of all of his? The Amsterdam Shag. So I guess I am with the guy above me!- Re: Peter Stockkebye 'export' line
- Posted by Jeff on Wednesday, 16-Feb-2005
Lilbrown.com carries the "export line" of PS for $13.45 for 10.6 oz cans
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- Posted by kc on Wednesday, 15-Jun-2011
LONDON EXPORT RULES....Bring it from Nashville Tennessee to my mates in London all the time.....They love it better than the tobacco there....and the price is a whole lot better! The can lasts ages...and doesnt have all the extra crap they tend to put in cigs these days!!
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