Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
Posted by Jack Remy on Wednesday, 10-Oct-2007
Greeting Members:
I am brand new to MYO RYO. I am seeking air-dried additive free
tobacco. Air-cured Tobacco. French Tobacco is air-cured and I want to buy something like. However some makers add sugar and may
not consider this an additive. I do and am seeking a smoke which is
sugar free or low sugar and no additives. Thanks to all.
Jack Remy Kansas City
Please Tax Sugar Salt or High Fat Food instead of Tobacco.
"Sugar as dangerous as tobacco
Norway's former World Health Organization leader Gro Harlem Brundtland has had no problem having her anti-sugar campaign taken up at home".
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- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by kl61 on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2007
American Spirit Is just what your looking for. Air cured and nothing added and that means NO Surgar
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- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by J on Wednesday, 18-Jan-2017
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^^ Pretty good article on WHY this matters that it be air cured and no sugar added. Also American Spirits have reportedly used a method where cat urine is used to change the free acid nicotine reaction to a free base reaction which then causes the cigarettes to be even more addictive. If they are also flue cured then that means extremely more deadly tobacco.
- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Sunday, 14-Oct-2007
Jack, all I can suggest is that you grow your own tobacco so you know there is nothing else added. All you'd have to add is distilled water enough to compress a block for cutting.
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Of all the tobacco manufacturers out there, D&R is the most telling of all about what goes into their blends! I have a can of McClintock Full Flavor here, and lets see what Peter Stokkebye says is in it! "McClintock cigarette tobacco is an excellent blend made from the finest leaf tobacco"?
Zig Zag Classic is a little more telling than McClintock claiming "superior quality burley and virginia with the addition of hand selected small leaf aromatic tobaccos". Other than that no one lists their whole recipe, so why is it that everyone seems to want to know every ingredient D&R uses; Mark's recipes'? I'm confident D&R's blends are cleaner, with less toppings, casings, and flavorings than other products just from handling and looking at them closely.
If growing and producing your own tobacco is like making your own wine, then you will never smoke better than your own crops!
I Know from my own experience! I don't know how it is in Kansas Jack, but here in Ohio our elected nannies want to put a $9+ tax per Lb. on bulk tobacco! I suggested in an e-mail that they tax imports from China and Mexico--put tariffs' on imported luxury cars; since it seems the least we could do for the loss of jobs! Wazmo is right, and the door is stuck wide open.
Sorry about getting off topic. Capt. Mike
- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by G on Thursday, 11-Oct-2007
What about the cigar blend rolling tobacco from D&R Don Giovanni SigaroTM? [link] Cigar tobacco is usually air cured and according to D&R "No chemical flavorings added" (whatever this means).
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- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by Dave L on Thursday, 11-Oct-2007
When it comes down to it, all tobacco is air cured at some point. Flue-curing is air-curing done with heated air in a controlled environment. Fire-curing typically involves a mix of air curing and curing by smoky heated air. Sun-curing is air-curing in a warm and sunny climate.
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I do wish D&R would be more specific about what they do and don't add. The Ramback Balkan description also says "No chemical flavorings added", a post by Mark (D&R) says it has "no flavorings or casings". Its actually a bit contradictory, why is 'chemical' in the description?
- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by G on Saturday, 13-Oct-2007
Dave,
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I agree regarding D&R's opaqueness. While all tobaccos are cured using air like you said, the OP seems concerned with sugar content, so the specifics of the curing is key in that regard.
Wonder if the OP was influenced by research cited around the web about smokers of natural air cured cigarettes (lower sugar and higher pH) having lower rates of lung cancer than smokers of higher sugar, more acidic cigarettes? [link]
- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by Dave L on Sunday, 14-Oct-2007
I agree that the OP must have read/latched on to something. Is it the curing or the inherent properties of the leaf that matter? Burley has less natural sugar and a higher pH than Virginia. Burley has an open cell structure that makes it suitable for air-curing and the addition of casings to counter its low sugar. While Two Timer may not have added casings, it is double toasted to reduce pH (and tastes pretty sweet to me). It seems that, one way or another, Burley needs/gets some kind of treatment to counter its low sugar/high pH. When all is said and done, does curing/leaf type matter? Is there a significant difference, in sugar/pH, between Two Timer (100% air-cured Burley) and Windsail (100% flue-cured Virginia)?
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- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by Wazmo Nariz on Thursday, 11-Oct-2007
An even better idea is for the government to get out of our wallets and don't friggin' tax anything.
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If you want them to tax what you consider to be bad for you in some ill-advice social-engineering scheme, you're leaving the door open for them to tax stuff you may not agree is bad for you but which some Nanny does.
Otherwise, good luck in finding a decent tobacco sans all additives. You could, of course, grow your own...something at least a couple of us here are doing.
- Re: Air-cured tobacco w/o add Sugar/add
- Posted by Dave L on Wednesday, 10-Oct-2007
Air-cured tobacco is typically Burley and is the most likely to have casings (the primary source of added sugar). I don't know if D&R's Two Timer (100% air-cured Burley) is free of casings (some of their tobaccos are). The only French tobacco I know of is Gauloises (nothing like Two Timer) which probably contains flue, air and fire cured tobaccos. See the Glossary for more on curing and tobacco types.
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