May be the best machine yet.
.Posted by Gomer on Saturday, 20-Oct-2007
why doesn't someone make a new automatic machine using this technology.
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- Re: May be the best machine yet.
- Posted by Nathan on Friday, 22-May-2020
Did anyone find a place to order replacement aprons?
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- Posted by phillip kalaveras on Saturday, 06-Aug-2011
When I was a young boy in Texas (53 now) my Grandpa use to let me roll his cigarettes. He passed when I was 15 and that hump back roller is all I wanted but no one knew what happened to it. Thanks for bringing back a most cherished memory.
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- Posted by partself on Saturday, 11-Jun-2011
where can I find replacement aprons other that ryo tobacco. Also has anyone found an alternative material for replacing the apron?
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- Posted by TanteC on Monday, 23-Apr-2012
I have been using my original Bugler roller since I bought it new in 1977. (Yup, they were still available then.) Since it is quite literally decades since the original style aprons have been available, I make my own using the "handyman's secret weapon" (i.e. duct tape). I make the aprons reversible, so I only have to do it a couple of times a year. Just use your original belt to make a pattern so you keep it the right length. If you like a slightly larger cigarette than the original belt provides, just add a bit more length to the apron as you are making it (a millimeter or two is all). This will create a slightly larger pouch/trough in which to place the tobacco as you roll it. What I miss from my original kit is the metal tin that came with it to hold finished smokes. It held 25 cigarettes - my daily ration.
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- Re: May be the best machine yet.
- Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Saturday, 20-Oct-2007
To make an automated machine like those used in the cigarette factories for consumer use wouldn't be financially sound. First, some bright bulb out there would start making smokes to sell; a really bad idea at best. Second, a machine with those capabilities would draw instant government attention. The current offerings in electric machines; with their problems is as close as it's going to get I think. I'm hoping the new Magnum is all it's advertised to be, and if so; would the be the best invention yet for MYO--CMC crowd.
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Gomer, I have a new design Quick Roller Deluxe, and have used it extensively, but for reasons which I've listed in the Electric Section under Machines, I am now using my Topomatic exclusively! Captn Mike
- Re: May be the best machine yet.
- Posted by Gomer on Sunday, 21-Oct-2007
Captain, what I had in mind was a machine that worked like the big machine, but rolled one stick at a time instead of a huge stick several feet long, cut to lengths and filters applied. I just thought
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that if someone wanted to make a machine, stop re-inventing the wheel and make a mini version of the real deal. I think the humpback is the closest thing to it so far. It just doesn't make filter cigarettes and by no means automatic.
Yea, Captain U-96 aka Mike, I understand, I have a Fresh Choice machine. Now that I have cut back on my smoking and just smoke 4 or 5 a day, I use my 4+ yr old supermatic II. My smokes stay fresher that way.
The Fresh Choice works pretty good now and I no longer need it. I am going to take it over to the tobacco store and see if he can sell it for me while it is still pretty new.
I still like rolled cigarettes better than stuffed. No more than I smoke now, I think I will order one of those humpbacks to see if it works as good as I remember.
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- Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Sunday, 21-Oct-2007
That's what I thought you meant Gomer--a small machine that worked like the big ones do. A good machinist could make one I'll bet! I remember as a little boy at my babysitters house being taught to use one of those pull--over machines. Anne was from Russia, and her husband sailed on the Bethlehem Steamship Company all year till the Great Lakes froze over, then he came home and son's bummed Chesterfield Kings off him all day. Anyways, their son Frank taught me how to work the machine so I could make him smokes; then I ended up making them for the other brother too. I remember using Top and Bugler. Back in the late 80's I got one for myself so I could smoke Bugler rather than Camel. I wish I had that machine now that spare aprons are finally available. It would be nice to change machines now and then, you know B&W one day and Topomatic another.
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I didn't care for the Fresh Choice machine, because I felt it was way too expensive, and I knew from others it didn't use all types of tobacco without trouble. I'd bet your machine would sell in less than a week at a discount being used. I still haven't decided to sell mine yet. Like you I enjoy a nicely rolled smoke, and I have several small hand rollers, and I like Joker papers.
When I wear out one of my little hand roller aprons I will take it off and wash it in warm water & soap then turn it inside out, and it will last a little longer; I wonder if that would work on the B&W Hump? Good luck! Captn Mike
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- Posted by Kerry on Saturday, 20-Oct-2007
I can't answer that question, but I will ask another (tongue in cheek).
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Can I still get "One New Apron Free On Receipt of BUGLER, TARGET or KITE Label, Additional Aprons 5 cents each."? That's what it says on my old Brown and Williamson rolling machine which is very similar to the one you pictured. Although it works well, I still prefer my Zig-Zag roller if I actually roll one instead of injecting. Much more control with the newer model.
This may be a clue to why, in answer to your question. However, as I understand it, manufactured sticks are still "rolled" in a long section, then cut and filters added. I once saw an old film about this process for unfiltered Lucky Strikes, but I am not sure that is how they still do it.
As for your question, well, injecting is more popular and thus more marketable and profitable. That's seems to be it in a nut shell.
- Re: May be the best machine yet.
- Posted by Gomer on Saturday, 20-Oct-2007
No, Kerry, but you can buy 5 replacement aprons for $10.00.
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I would like to see someone come up with a automated roller, because that is the way manufactured cigarettes are made.
Note: Yea, I used to have a humpback roller (over 40 yrs ago) and it worked quite well as best I can remember.
- Re: May be the best machine yet.
- Posted by Kerry on Saturday, 20-Oct-2007
I am fairly certain the one I have is from either the 40's or the 50's, although it could be from the 60's. I guess I would have to talk to someone with more knowledge of these old machines to know for sure.
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The former owner was my ex father-in-law who was one of the scientists who worked on the Manhattan project at Oak Ridge. He died in 1991, before I really got to know the man.
It still works well, but the apron is getting frayed on the edges. Not sure how old the current apron is and I am pretty sure that I won't be using it enough to warrant buying more aprons.
- Re: May be the best machine yet.
- Posted by Matt on Saturday, 20-Oct-2007
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Gomer,
5 aprons for $10.00 sounds like today's market price. Where did you get the machine? I've seen them on e-bay and once in a movie and have wanted one since.
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- Posted by Chrystal Thurston on Friday, 28-Feb-2014
Gomer: you mention being able to buy 5 replacement aprons for $10 where, please? When I try this link [link] the page no longer exists. Is there somewhere else currently to get them. My hubby is a die hard hump back roller and refuses to change. In the past I have been able to get cheap rollers off of ebay but now they want so much for them it's not cos effective. There is nothing wrong with the roller just need a replacement(preferably new) apron.
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If anyone else knows please chime in, Thanks!