Excel vs. Super
Posted by Ebenezer on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007
I have used the Excel with no problems for 2+ years. I am considering buying a new machine. The Excel is working fine, would buy another, but I want to try anohter machine to test ease of use. Should I? I enjoy your knowledge on SYO. (I stuff D&R Cockstrong, Vengeur light, Windsail Platinum, Two Timer, and Penhooker Light-in order of use) With Rizla FF, El Ray L, Ramback Prestige Tubes. With my Excel there is skill needed making a 'full' Rizla(old machine?), makes perfect El Ray and Ramback tubes. Excel is awkward to hold and use of tobacco needs a tray(haha). Is a Super better?
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- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by Dan S on Sunday, 10-Jun-2007
You wrote"Excel is awkward to hold"
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Try this, instead of putting your fingers in the handle hole.
Just lay your hand over the top of the machine thumb on one side, little finger on the other,kind of like palming a basketball, then sort of twist the machine clockwise as you pull on the handle.I find this works much better and is actually less awkard then holding on to the Supermatic.
- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by Dan S on Saturday, 09-Jun-2007
I really don't think the Supermatic is better. If the Excel works for you I don't think there is much of reason to "upgrade" to Supermatic. Unless you're looking to make 100's or shorts.
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I used an Excel for about three years with no problems except the return spring breaking. I smoke about a 1 1/2 packs a day.
I finally got a Supermatic a couple months ago. The Supermatic worked real well for a while till the release nut loosend and got out of whack. I messed around with it for at least an hour trying to get it set right and it's still messed up. Maybe I'am just nechanically disabled but I'm back to using the Excel. I will try adjustin the Supermatic again but .......
One thing I will do if I get it adjusted right is to mark that release cam some how so next time it goes out of whack I'll know exactly where to set it.
- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by mike c on Saturday, 09-Jun-2007
yes the time release is tricky but lucky for me I figured it out quickly and I wish you were here so I could just do it for you
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it basically boils down to getting nothing on the 1oo's setting (I like the idea of no metal on metal collision), and then getting a bump on the king-size setting, which I ONLY NEED for making Rizla cig-size, and even then I don't have to have it, it's just a luxury....
anyone owning an Ultimatic would be well advised to instantly replace the release nuts with Arbro ones...you'll be going from 7/32 to 1/4......the 7/32 doesn't cut it at all....also, you can rip the time release straight off and still have a great machine.....with an empty slot
- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by mike c on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007
if it were me, and it was, I'd go for the more handsome metal machine
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it's also eye candy
never used excel, but from reading the forum I'd conclude that a metal machine is, in fact, better
you can use your excel for travel, seems to be the popular choice
- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by Matt on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007
I think you'd be much happier with a Supermatic. I have an Excel and it's the machine I use the least. (I do like to use it with Bugler tubes.) When I use my Excel it's usually because I'm being lazy about tuning up the Supermatic for whatever reason.)
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- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by mike c on Wednesday, 06-Jun-2007
and make sure you get the brand new edition with the plastic bells and whistles.....maybe email RBA to find out what/who/and where
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Great to have you back Matt.....I thought maybe that absynthe (sp?) was deadly.....
wheres Platoslostdialogue? I hope I didn't run him off
- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by Ebenezer on Thursday, 07-Jun-2007
Thanks guys made my decision easy. i'll be getting the NE supermatic. keep the excel in my car possibly. later
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- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by mike c on Thursday, 07-Jun-2007
Hey great idea
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I guess great minds think alike,,,,check out Doug at RYO mags video...he LOVES his Excel in the auto
- Re: Excel vs. Super
- Posted by David Brown on Thursday, 07-Jun-2007
Well I have had my Super for awhile and got an excel last month for a backup and now I use the excel more than the super.
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First off my super is all metal ( hasnt been upgraded yet) and will jam if the tobacco gets too fine and I mean if the cut isnt burley or bigger it can jam. The excel will stuff down to absolute dust and probably would stuff that as well.
Now I dont routinely make shake cigarettes. But I do like being able to use tobacco that with the super I would have to dump (which is pieces of tobacco that is between 1/8" and 1/2" long) with that the super will jam and the excel will not.
just my 2 cents worth