Cigarette Stuffing Machines
Posted by Tom Suttie on Sunday, 16-Sep-2007
Reading some of the posts regarding crank and electric machines makes me wonder whether people want to smoke cigarettes, or just delve into the intricate, but fairly simple mechanics of the machines themselves. Weighing scales, blend mixtures. moisture content etc add to this confusion. Is there anyone else out there that just wants to smoke cigarettes cheaper than pre-made? I apologise in advance for any ruffling of feathers!
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- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by Paul on Sunday, 16-Sep-2007
Well Tom, there are a lot of folks out there. Just not here, at least not that often. At the place I work I run into many make your own smokers, we all have to use one of the many smoke shacks. They don't use computers, wouldn't know how to check humidity, don't know any of the words in the stuff your own glossary and blah, blah, blah. They make their own due to rising prices and convenience. Oh, yeah, convenience, just imagine never to have to go to a mini mart again to purchase smokes because we run out. I love it. I know a guy who sits down every night after work and stuffs two packs of smokes one for him and one for his wife. He uses pipe tobacco and a $5.00 handheld injector. I have an old friend that stuffs his own that couldn't tell me the difference between the fancy tobacco that I bring him to try. A lot of people I talk to don't even mail or internet order their tobacco and tubes.
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I think people learn here, then go and make them. I doubt these folks you ask about even check the "what's new" forum to see the ruffling feathers. They may return to find out some info or get links but they're busy in life and "smoke em, if they got em". Hey just have a good time and stuff your own and save a ton of dough. This is a great place to get info but don't over analyze, it's not rocket science. Too wet (damp) tobacco; jams machines, smokes self extinguish, may taste mild and leave tangy after taste. Too dry tobacco; shag cut crumbles could over stuff tube may taste harsh, hot or dry.
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- Posted by Dash on Sunday, 16-Sep-2007
I SYO because of price, I don't even try and kid myself into thinking it's because of the quality of the tobacco. I just ordered 12 pounds of Sagamore Virginia from RYO tobacco and 50 cartons of Smokers Gold light tubes from RYO cigarettes. The cost to my door was $203.90. If I only get two cartons out of each pound of tobacco that puts my cost at .85 a package. When RYO cigarettes closed out their Fair Price tobacco for $8.99 for 26 ounces I bought quite a bit of it, if I add some of that to the Virginia I can get my cost per package down to around .50 or .60 a package. I've been smoking for a lot of years but I don't remember ever paying just .50 for a package of premades.
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- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by Kerry on Sunday, 16-Sep-2007
Most SYO people start because of the price factor. I dare say that many stay with it because of that. But, there are quite a few of us who stay with SYO because of tobacco companies such as D&R. High quality tobacco without recon is hard to find in the premade market (and even in some SYO tobacco) even at much higher prices.
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If you can't remember buying pack of smokes for .50 or less a pack, then you must be relatively young, at least to me. (grin)
Although I haven't tried the Sagamore line, there are enough folks on here who have rated it worthy to believe that it is at least a decent smoke. However, having found that my costs aren't that much higher smoking really good tobacco, I opt for quality.
Some will never be able to tell the difference, some will. It all boils down to personal taste. If you can tell the difference, then it boils down to whether or not you think it is worth paying a little more.
- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by Dash on Monday, 17-Sep-2007
I'm old enough that my taste buds aren't what they used to be. Cost was a consideration. Buying in quantity to get the best price the Sagamore comes in at $11.74 a pound at my door, (12 pounds for $132.00 + 8.95 shipping) Windsail would have been $19.19 a pound. (10 14oz pouches for $139.95 or 15.99 a pound plus 20% shipping, or $19.19 a pound at my door.) That's a pretty significant difference and I don't think even Windsail platinum is any better than Sagamore Virginia, let alone regular Windsail.
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- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by Kerry on Monday, 17-Sep-2007
Good reviews notwithstanding, I just did quick search to find out who actually makes Sagamore. Other than what is said on RYOtobacco's site, their is very little to find.
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Anyone know anything more?
- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by Captain U-96 aka Mike on Tuesday, 09-Oct-2007
I remember paying .37. There was 3 cents in the pack wrapper, and the price was .40 cents over the counter.
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For me, I enjoy experimenting, blending, especially now that I can get Turkish Tobacco. But, back in the early 90's I was doing what you are; only I didn't have nowhere near the choices you have.
- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by mike c on Sunday, 16-Sep-2007
Tom, funny, I wrote a post today taking a poke at the very things you mention, and then erased it because people don't understand me
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I'm prepared to give you a machine but I need to get a nozzle
and in fairness to the insane hygrometer and blend madness lovers, I love the machines more than the smoking
ps-it's rather homely, but then....
- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by Hua Kul on Sunday, 16-Sep-2007
Tom, there's a long (millenia) and fascinating history in the tobacco culture. Many people find it interesting, from the variety of plants, to the different curing techniques, to the nuances of taste and aroma in the final smoking enjoyment. Other people enjoy food as a hobby. At work I may eat a sandwich out of the machine but in my free time I like to eat/cook delicious foods and drink fine beverages. Those are some of the enjoyable diversions of life.
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--Hua Kul
- Re: Cigarette Stuffing Machines
- Posted by Tom Suttie on Monday, 17-Sep-2007
I should add, further to my original post, that I am based in the U.K., and there are many more prople here who roll their own, either manually, or by machine, than stuff their own. I dont know why, after all a HH injector is cheap enough to get started, and the results much better than the flimsy and thin rolled cigarettes. My wife makes these, and says she likes them, but I think she is just being obstinate 'cos I suggest that she changes to SYO!
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I much enjoy this site, and its a pity that there is not a similar one in the U.K as the tobaccos mentioned on SYO are not available here.